With whisper you couldn’t have challenging encounters...
Riven would be perfect challenging encounter if you couldn’t melt so fast.
And what you suggest is a power creep. Weapons get so powerful the new content simply cannot be beaten without using said stuff. Creates massive exclusion in raids and becomes super uninviting.
Nerfs are essential. Off not a ton but a healthy dose.
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Raid bosses don't move .. Using whisper didn't make any encounter not challenging .. Same thing with well .. No raid bosses move or attack us forcing us to not be able to sit in a well
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Were both right really. Riven done correctly is challenging. Eater imo is fantastic. Sure dps race but you are actively attacked during dps. Oryx has controller damage though which I think we need that to return