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7/30/2019 3:55:54 AM
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I just use heroic, that way I can leave right away and don't screw anyone else over. It is a little harder and more annoying but it is very doable.
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Thank you for thinking of others :D and thats a good idea
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Screw that. Bungie created this mess. It's on them. I'm not wasting a second longer doing something monotonous.
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I mean, I just rather not be a dick about it and screw over other people. It isn't other people's fault, so I don't really care to punish them for it.
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By being a "dick to people", do you mean referring friends back to the game because of said "exploit" (which wasn't explained to be an exploit), thus, said friends paid money for the season pass, then said "exploit" was removed? Yeah... sorry, I dont care at this point. Again, Bungie made their own bed.
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By being a dick I mean screwing over other people who did absolutely nothing to you, and are not in the wrong in any ways shape or form. You want to be mad at Bungie go ahead, but taking it out on other players who have done nothing doesn't really seem like the way to go about it. And kind of speaks volumes about the people that do it, honestly.
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Thing is, I'm not taking it out on other players. I'm simply doing what benefits me most, given Bungie's poor design. It may hurt other players, but that's not my goal. Maybe, just maybe if said "exploit" was still available, I would still be farming the entire run. Blame Bungie, not the player.
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And try punishing bungie, and not the players. What ever the case may be, punishing other players is exactly what you are doing. If there was no alternative then that would be a different story, but there is a rather simple and easy alternative that you just choose not to use simply because you are angry. Sorry but just because you are mad and feel cheated, doesn't mean you aren't being a dick for treating other players this way.
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So what you are suggesting is this: I, myself, have suffer through 15 minutes of something I dont want to play (given Bungie designed a bounty for 20 kills in said activity), just because other people want a chance at a "good time"? In short, I must suffer, so that random people don't? Sorry dude, I have a job. Gaming is my time. I'll play the game as I see fit. I've already been a dick to my actual friends by convincing then to spend money on a false advertisement (mine). I know, it sucks. But again, blame Bungie for poor design. Not me for playing a game my own way.
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Editado por Nickel7Dime: 7/30/2019 5:39:30 AMIf it takes you 15 minutes to kill 20 enemies then that is pretty sad. It really isn't that hard to kill 20 enemies in that first room of heroic. Just hide behind one of the boxes at the side, have a pulse or scout rifle, and basically done. Heck you could even use a banner to get your super if you wanted to get it done really fast. If it was actually difficult and actually took significantly longer to do, then you might have a point, but it doesn't, so you really don't. Your suffering is maybe an extra minute or two, nothing more. That is a pretty small amount of suffering in exchange for not ruin things for other people. I mean you are also free to continue to do what you do, but you will still be considered a dick for doing it. If you accept that, then what ever. There are plenty of people out there that do dickish things, accept them, and move on.
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Wait, you actually think it takes me 20 mins to kill 20 enemies? Wtf? This entire discussion has been based on why I leave after killing 20 enemies (THE LAMP ROOM) instead of staying for the entire run of Menagerie. The fact I had to explain this is beyond mind boggling.
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Editado por Nickel7Dime: 7/30/2019 5:40:25 AMMeant to write 15. Either way, if it takes you 15 minutes to kill 20 enemies that is pretty sad. The fact that you had to latch on to that detail and that detail alone also speaks volumes. Mean while you ignore the entire part about it not taking that much time, and not being that hard. And ignored the part about about it being ok to do it, so long as you accept the fact that you are being a dick. Edit: even went back to edit it. There does that make you feel better. Now will you actually focus on the topic at hand, or have you found something else to try and throw up as an attempted distraction?
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So you think it takes me even 15 mins to clear 20 enemies in THE LAMP ROOM?
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You are the one that mentioned suffering 15 minutes through something you don't want to do. So I suppose the question is, what is it that takes you 15 minutes? You have made it clear you don't do the managerie, so I can only assume that since the topic at hand had to do with killing things in the heroic managerie instead you are thinking that it is going to take you 15 minutes to do so. Literally the thing we have been discussing this whole time is that you can do the kills in heroic managerie, instead of screwing people over in normal managerie. And that choosing not to is rather dickish. So if that isn't what the 15 minutes is refering to, then what is it? If you ware talking about the managerie in general, which would be a bit odd given the fact that it isn't even close to being a defined amount of time. Then I gave good news for you, you don't have to do the full managerie, you can do heroic managerie instead and choose not to be a dick that way. You know, what this whole conversation has been about, and in fact that it started with.
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It takes me less than 60 seconds to complete the triumph hall bounty of 20 kills without dying. Then I leave... instead of spending 15 mins in a full Menagerie run... This should've been obvious. I thought I was having a conversation with an intelligent individual. I was wrong. Allow me to bow out now. I bid you farewell.
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Except doing a full managerie run was never originally part of the discussion, as I explained earlier. So then I must ask, what does that have to do with anything. The discussion at hand has to do with using heroic managerie instead of normal, so that it is you alone and you don't mess anyone else up. I really didn't think that was hard to understand, especially since it was literally right their in my original reply. Seems more like you are bowing out because you have been left with two options. One, admit that you should be using heroic managerie to st least be somewhat polite to other players. Or two, admit that you are being a dick towards other people, and will continue to do so out of spite and anger at bungie. You once again tried to throw something into the conversation that had nothing to do with it. I wonder why people who can't seem to think of legitimate counter points always seem to do this. It seems very odd, and doesn't really seem to accomplish anything other than making it look like they are incapable of actually discussing the matter at hand.
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Editado por WhiskeyHotel: 7/30/2019 6:39:52 AMI've made it clear that because Bungie is not being polite to players, I won't be polite to players (unless I know you.) I'm not going to run heroic and put myself at a time disadvantage just to avoid running a full normal Menagerie. I'll play to benefit myself, just as Bungie designed the bounties vs. the activity.
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Editado por Nickel7Dime: 7/30/2019 6:45:33 AMAh, so because you feel they were a dick to you, you then decide to be a dick to others who had nothing to do with it. What lovely reasoning, what a shame the world isn't filled with people with your mind set. My what a world that would be. Suffering a very tiny amount of inconvenience for the sake of actually being polite and kind to other people. What an unheard of and terrible message. Right? Edit: so by your logic if someone was a dick to Bungie in general, it then must be ok for them to be a dick to you right? I mean you had nothing to do with what ever that might be I am sure, but none the less, they are justified in being that way. According to you at least.
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100%... do unto others... By your logic, you are bending your will to Bungie's mistakes. Question... would it have been so hard for Bungie to implement a multiple chest run in Menagerie? Say, a chest appears after every complete encounter without the timer running out? (3 possible chests, for the less intelligent) Entice players to stay and improve upon activity mechanics while still creating a balanced fix. Nope. Instead just blindly nerf while players like you accept lackluster design.
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Yes do unto others as you would have them do unto you. In other words if you wish for people to be a dick to you, then be a dick to others. It is pretty clear that you don't want people to be a dick to you, as shown by your anger at bungie, and yet you decide to be a dick to others. How interesting. There is a reason that the doing unto others part comes first, and the part about you come second. Because it all starts with how you treat others. And yes there is plenty bungie could have done, and should do. So if you have the opportunity to be a bit dickish to Bungie themselves then they kind of deserve it, because they treated others that way first. But other players have done nothing to you, and therefore do not deserve it. Your little quote actually flies directly in the face of what you have been trying to argue. And it is rather humours really. Be mad and punish the one that wronged you. Don't punish those that are completely innocent. Unless you would like them to potentially return the favor in some way.
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Okay. However you see it. I'm wrong, you're right. Hate me all you want. I literally couldn't care less. As I've stated above, I'm gonna play my game the way I see fit. Deuces! ✌
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Well at least you admit you are being a dick. Maybe not in so many words but close enough. Was only hoping to maybe show you that punishing innocent people really doesn't accomplish anything except for maybe harm you in the long run if/when it comes back around to you. But unfortunately it seems yet another person who seems to refuse to be angry at the right people, and is instead hell bent on trying to punish the wrong people in what ever small way they can. It is seen far to often, and yet it is rather sad to see every time.
