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publicado originalmente en: Don't preorder Shadows Keep
6/7/2019 12:31:10 PM
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When I need your help deciding how to spend my money, I'll ASK for it. ....and I suggest you don't wait around for me to ask...... Just sayin'. Yesterday was a pivotal moment for me. Because I finally saw Bungie ACKNOWLEDGE the identity of the game they actually created...and lay the groundwork for BUILDING upon that Idenity. For the first time in five years, Bungie openly called this game an MMO....and an RPG. Yesterday, I finally saw them lean into what I've been fighting here for 5 years to get them to lean into. It was reassuring, because I had felt that I had been fighting Bungie the whole time....when---if you read between the lines of what the devs were saying----I had actually been fighting Activision's plans for the game. So, on the eve of this game FINALLY going in the direction that I have wanted it to go these five year, I'm not looking to bail out. I had said before, that "cores" would be a dealbreaker for me. But that's before I knew that such revolutionary and foundational changes to this game were actually on the table....and going to be offered. If it means I need to play "recycled" content for the next year, while Bungie uses the game as a "Player Test Server" to transform this game into the kind of MMO/FPS hybrid it has always danced around the edges of being? I'll do it. Bungie drew a line in the sand yesterday. They basically said that====now that they are out from under Activision=====they are playing for the long game. That they're plans are for the next 2-5 years....and not next quarter's earnins and next shareholder's meeting. I'm down with that plan. YMMV. Spend your own money accordingly.
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  • [quote]When I need your help deciding how to spend my money, I'll ASK for it. ....and I suggest you don't wait around for me to ask...... Just sayin'. Yesterday was a pivotal moment for me. Because I finally saw Bungie ACKNOWLEDGE the identity of the game they actually created...and lay the groundwork for BUILDING upon that Idenity. For the first time in five years, Bungie openly called this game an MMO....and an RPG. Yesterday, I finally saw them lean into what I've been fighting here for 5 years to get them to lean into. It was reassuring, because I had felt that I had been fighting Bungie the whole time....when---if you read between the lines of what the devs were saying----I had actually been fighting Activision's plans for the game. So, on the eve of this game FINALLY going in the direction that I have wanted it to go these five year, I'm not looking to bail out. I had said before, that "cores" would be a dealbreaker for me. But that's before I knew that such revolutionary and foundational changes to this game were actually on the table....and going to be offered. If it means I need to play "recycled" content for the next year, while Bungie uses the game as a "Player Test Server" to transform this game into the kind of MMO/FPS hybrid it has always danced around the edges of being? I'll do it. Bungie drew a line in the sand yesterday. They basically said that====now that they are out from under Activision=====they are playing for the long game. That they're plans are for the next 2-5 years....and not next quarter's earnins and next shareholder's meeting. I'm down with that plan. YMMV. Spend your own money accordingly.[/quote] You know he is just sharing a suggestion?

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  • Editado por Erijian: 6/8/2019 2:38:01 AM
    Hearing them call Destiny an MMORPG was one of the most satisfying things of that stream for me. With them finally being able to accept the game as one of them I hold high hopes for the future of Destiny, even if it takes a while for them to reach true MMORPGdom. I'm genuinely excited.

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  • You have cried for the last 2 seasons.. I think its time for you to move on👍

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  • I think your advice is worth every penny I paid for it....

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  • I know a lot of people give Luke Smith a hard time; but I think his plans for this game are exponentially better than where I thought it was going. I was pleasantly surprised. Pre ordered yesterday.

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  • AWESOME KELLY HAS RETURNED!!!!

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  • Finally addressed... What exactly? They are saying the exact same things that they always say and you guys so quickly forget all of the BS. This is why Bungie doesn’t actually create content that exceeds [i]many[/i] of our expectations... because the sheep forget. As much as I hate Luke Smith, he was right... you guys will throw money at the screen. Nobody told you how to spend your money. Just know that when you do preorder the content that you are part of the problem of rewarding mediocrity. You have no reason to complain about issues with the game because you are part of the problem. So, go ahead big guy. Preorder away. I’m not saying by any means that I haven’t gotten my monies worth or had some fun. What I am saying is that the game could be much better, but it won’t be because of those that reward Bungie for the substandard content that they have been producing. Do you want better content and a developer that actually values their community? If the answer is no, then by all means preorder the game. Otherwise, give it a month or so for it to drop to half price and pick it up then. See how quickly Bungie starts putting out better content then.

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  • Editado por TheArtist: 6/7/2019 6:33:21 PM
    [quote]hey are saying the exact same things that they always say[/quote] No they aren't. They said things yesterday that they have NEVER said in the 5 years I've been playing this game. They also said things---that if you have experience in business----made it clear why this game has struggled the way it has. IOW, Activision wanted the game to fit into a proven business model (for them), and that model was at odds with the identity of the game. [quote]ou guys so quickly forget all of the BS. [/quote] Nope. I've got a very good memory, thank you. But---for the first time---we got an explanation of WHY we had to deal with all that BS. [quote]Nobody told you how to spend your money. Just know that when you do preorder the content that you are part of the problem of rewarding mediocrity. You have no reason to complain about issues with the game because you are part of the problem. So, go ahead big guy. Preorder away.[/quote] Thank you for giving me **permission** to spend the money that **I** worked for in the manner that **I** see fit. How **charitable** of you. Gee. How did I manage to make it through 51 years of life WITHOUT YOU to lecture me on the value of my money, and the meaning of my purchase decisions in a free market?!?!? Reality check. The only person that I answer to about how I spend my money is ME. The only person that I owe any explanation for how I choose to spend my money is ME. How I spend my money is NOT some "community" decision because this -blam!-ing "community" didn't get up off its ASS on many a day when it was still Oh-Dark-THIRTY....and go WORK to earn it. ...and they day you get off YOUR ass and start working for money that goes in my pocket and that I have the power to spend is the day YOU get a vote in how I spend it...and not ONE second before. So I suggest you use that energy to either decide how you are going to spend you own money....or how you will earn more for yourself. And get out of my face about what I do with mine.

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  • For 51 years of experience... your comprehension skills are lacking, severely... There is not one word that gives you permission to, or tells you how to, spend [i]your[/i] money. Personally, I don’t give two shits how you spend your money and neither does the OP. It was simply a statement that you felt the need to inject your simple-ass self into. Nobody asked you to respond to the statement by the OP... Yet, you felt the need to respond so constructively and in such a positive manner. As far as, “business experience”.... I have a MBA with a focus on Economics and have been in the business world for around thirteen years. Since you mentioned business experience I felt the need to advise you of my, “business experience”. All I heard from Bungie was excuses. Just like every other time. I fell for it every single time because I thought that there was no way that they would/could -blam!- things up again, but they did. Each time was less and less quality content. IMO. They would fix things and break more things to fix in the future to make it appear as if they were listening. Excuses are all that I have heard from them. I will not be rewarding them any more for mediocrity. It’s that simple. As far as you spending [i]your[/i] money... I no longer give you my permission to spend it as you see fit. Clearly, you lack the ability/intelligence to make good, informed decisions. I, also, question your ability to comprehend anything that is external to your simple brain that has yet to undergo evolution. I think that it’s probably best for society if you would just go ahead and lock your 51 year experienced self in your mother’s basement. I’m sure that she has always regretted the decision of bringing you into this world. You may as well confirm it for her. How was that for being all up in your face?

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  • Editado por TheArtist: 6/7/2019 8:05:54 PM
    For lack of a more polite term. [i]Shut your mouth [/i] 1. You're still not the most educated person in this room. My two doctorates trump your master"s. 2. I have NO interest in ANYTHING you have to say about how I choose to spend my money. Its rude and its disrespectful. While I can understand the typical 12 year old who posts here not having the maturity and life experience to understand how OFF LIMITS getting in someone else's business about what they do with their money is..... [b]....you are old enough to know better. [/b] I tried to use semi-polite sarcasm to try to remind you of this. But since you didn't take the hint, now I'm just going to be rude. When I want your opinion on anything that I do with my money, I will GIVE it to you. How dare you lecture me ---or ANYONE for that matter---about how to spend $60 on a video game. Shit. Costs me more than that each week to put GAS in my car. How I spend my discretionary income is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Now get off my property.

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  • What doctoral degrees do you hold?

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  • Bahahaha... you must just be a peach to be around. If you have a significant other and/or children... I feel sorry for them. Actually, I kind of feel sorry for you as well... such negativity. Now, I’m in your face and on your property...

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  • Editado por TheArtist: 6/7/2019 8:05:40 PM
    Got that backwards. I feel sorry for yours. Because you lack boundaries and manners. Classic bully. Muted. Now you've been removed from both. Enjoy your day.

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  • Original too...

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  • I also hold advanced degrees. May I join in the fun?

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  • The more the merrier. I would t have mentioned it, but since she questioned my business experience...

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  • I believe in this case kellygreen is a shade of green and not a proper name.

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  • For me, this remains to be seen. Yes, it looks good on paper but we all know how well that has been. I'm not saying this isn't their plan, I just want to see them actually follow through with what they say they're going to be doing.

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  • I'm planning on getting the collector's edition

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  • Thank you for always bringing light to the forums.

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  • Oh gawd....

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  • Yeah, what he said. I already pre- ordered it anyway

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  • Editado por RomanticTuna: 6/7/2019 1:08:06 PM
    Good man... (Or woman)

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  • Guy. Thanx.

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  • Respect.

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