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5/19/2019 12:49:04 AM
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Why do people get so upset over some nerfs?
Bungie arn't nerfing weapons to make "raids harder" as some people like to claim. Theyre nerfing them so more exotics become viable. The whisper was a huge nerf but it became a mandatory weapon required for raids which took an exotic slot.
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Nerf a bunch of stuff and buff nothing.
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Why do people not get upset when they don’t get what they paid for? In fact, it really isn’t a case of you not getting what you paid for. It’s a case of you getting it, and then having it taken away. And what raid[b]s[/b] was whisper required for? Scourge is the only one I can think of the required whisper. Otherwise, Whisper wasn’t first choice in any other raid.
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I've never played a game like destiny where the community spends so much time complaining about the depth of the lot pool, and also complaining about having to use something other than their favorite weapon. I knew guys that only ran hung jury once they got it. Every raid, strike, etc. Never even tried out another gun once they got the roll they wanted. I'm waiting till I at least play these new things before losing my mind about them.
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Well they're effectively removing Whisper, that's why they're pissed.
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1 Respuesta[quote]Bungie arn't nerfing weapons to make "raids harder" as some people like to claim.[/quote] [u][b]FROM THIS WEEKS TWAB:[/b][/u] [quote][b]Destiny Dev Team[/b]: For Season of Opulence, several notable weapons are being adjusted. We want to ensure that encounters—raids and other endgame content, for example—remain a challenge.[/quote] Kinda blows a hole in your logic, bud... [quote]Theyre nerfing them so more exotics become viable.[/quote] Other exotics are simply not viable [i][b]at all[/b][/i]. Hence why they are not used. Do you think this nerf to things like the rigs or the shards will cause Hunter's to look at exotics like the Aeon Swift, Mechaneer's Tricksleeves or Gemini Jesters? There are some absolute garbage exotics - if Bungie wants them in the rotation for players, maybe make them less garbage? You know, instead of just making the viable options garbage too? I can only speak for me, but making more exotics trash doesn't really give me any real motivation to pick up a different exotic to try out - it just makes me go play a different game. If that is what Bungie is aiming for, then I guess they are succeeding... [quote]The whisper was a huge nerf but it became a mandatory weapon required for raids which took an exotic slot.[/quote] Yes...just like the Black Hammer in D1, which begs the question: [b]Did Bungie learn absolutely nothing from D1?![/b] [spoiler]The answer is yes[/spoiler]
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You better watch out before you get nerf
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1) It shows a basic lack of understanding from Bungie about what game they are making, for who, and how. This upsets fans who want the franchise to be good, be fun, be popular, and have a strong safe future. 2) It disrespects the time investment of players who had to grind for hours, days, or months to earn those exotics.
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Why bring back Whisper just to nerf it again? Did Bungie forget what happened in D1? Did they think they would get different results by doing the exact same thing?
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Editado por Peter, Kell of Cottontail: 5/20/2019 9:55:50 PMThey really are not. If anything, bungie nerfs mentalities, not the game. But the nerfs are not bringing up other exotics because most other exotics do not help or benefit a team. Ok, nerf Orpheus rigs.. so my stomp-ees, lucky pants, etc are going to be useful how for my team? We can and do switch our armor pieces and weapons per the encounters.. so I am not shooting a tether at a boss for the dps phase. I put on my celestial hawk to help the team do dps if warranted. When you ask that question... then you can see they are attacking a meta and they are making the approach to raid harder. That’s it. What reason does a whisper nerf serve? Even if they make it equal to any other power weapon in the game... if a power sniper is what you want and everything is equal.. by a nerf.. you correcting purely for the content coming. The exotic choices are the issue. If they suck for encounters... you are not going to use them. Period. That means they are bringing down the exotics they are nerfing and making them just as useless for encounters... Why, so I can use the Cerberus +1 in a raid on day one because what I did use is now just as bad as it?
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None of these weapons are mandatory to use, people simply use them because of their strengths. Then the hardcore streamers complain that the game is too easy, yet, they still don’t have to use them. That being said, I’m just more pissed that I grinded for some of these weapons to have them. To, yeah, make the game easier! That’s the whole point of this ge re of games!
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Stop trolling
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I have some swamp land I think you might be interested in...
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[quote]They're nerfing them so more exotics become viable.[/quote] Just... wow.
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5 RespuestasEditado por Ghostfire239: 5/20/2019 8:33:42 PM[quote]Bungie arn't nerfing weapons to make "raids harder" as some people like to claim. Theyre nerfing them so more exotics become viable. The whisper was a huge nerf but it became a mandatory weapon required for raids which took an exotic slot.[/quote] Except you don’t NEED any of these exotics for most raids. There are other exotics that are BETTER than Whisper if use a basic set up. Also this nerf solves nothing. You nerf whisper and DARCI will just take it’s place and be the new requirement. Nerfing Orpheus doesn’t make Gravition Forfeit any more viable or better. The things that weren’t viable before the nerfs aren’t gonna be viable after the nerfs. These were pointless nerfs.
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Imagine having a game based on looting and shooting that already fails at making builds
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We got Bungie’d!!!!!
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Yes, it's going to be so refreshing using DARCI instead of Whisper. Such change!
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2 RespuestasI'm more bothered about my time investment to get said weapons, some some it's punishing RNG that you sit through. But the fact bungie smash everything to bits when they nerf things, instead of just taking little bits off. Plus the game design forces use of certain weapons to be effective.
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"Theyre nerfing them so more exotics become viable." The problem is that that's not how it works. Anything that is viable after the nerfs would also be viable [i]now[/i]. The only thing that would make other exotics more viable suddenly would be buffs to the exotics, or nerfs to the enemy encounters. Now, if you mean that they're trying to make people use different weapons, that's slightly different, but is also missing the point, imo. People are mad because they use the best gear because other gear is in many cases just [i]bad[/i], so nerfing the great gear just means we'll have a larger collection of bad to mediocre gear (or "good", best case scenario). I get that buffing all the other exotics isn't a viable solution either, but just making certain items WORSE doesn't really fix the problem. People are simply going to try to find other cheese methods, or if an encounter is too hard (T3 Reckoning with Blackout on Knight weeks), they'll just skip it altogether.
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Except a lot of Exotics are useless.
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Players like myself, often the more passionate ones, don't care about the logic or reasoning behind the changes (Whether or not the changes are reasonable or logic is separate.). They see it from the eye of a player who is being told their favourite toy is being toned down because [i]reasons[/i]. We see a tool, we latch on to it, and we despise action that makes said tool worse. I've made this mistake countless times, letting my [i]precious feelings[/i] get in the way of trying to objectify information.
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the whole game is a nerf of destiny1
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I’m pretty sure it’s what is commonly referred to as a disruption of ‘complacent gaming syndrome’. People select the same strategy over and over, and when things get changed, they all get upset. I just got back into Destiny after two seasons away, and this has been observed in [i]every game under the sun[/i], and not just destiny.
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Because all Nerfs are bad and Bungie is the Devil. Just buff legendary rocket launchers to have infinite ammo.
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5 RespuestasJust by your title u dont deserve a response
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It's not going to make shit exotics good, we're just going to have more shit exotics. Whatever does take WotW's place be it the best of the worst or a new exotics a standard will eventually be set. Would you continue the horrible trend of -blam!-ing gear, as it stands this balance is shit and doesn't solve anything as it's been shown time and time again.
