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Editado por HollowedWayfarer: 3/25/2019 2:45:23 PM
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Except the countless times the story of Dredgen Yor and Shin Malphur has been described as a “Tale of Two Gunslingers” and the fact that Yor was willingly making himself fit the most basic descriptions of Hunters during that period in time. Heck, he even went as far as to steal cloaks from murdered Hunters and wear them.
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  • Hm, okay. Well, to be fair, the two gunslingers could have been Shin and Jaren Ward. And Yor wasn’t trying to be portrayed as a Hunter. He was trying to be portrayed as a monster. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/the-shadows-of-yor#dredgen-yor Again, his only “Hunter-like” quality was traveling the wilderness, but even that was part of his big facade and was not simply adventuring. He had a hand cannon, and because of his traveling, played the role of a gunslinger. Not a Hunter Gunslinger. Just a gunslinger: Gunslinger [i]Noun[/i] a person noted for speed and skill in handling and shooting a gun especially in the American West Yor was instantly stereotyped as a Hunter, even though most Risen and many Guardians did the same thing as him, regardless of wether or not they were Hunters.

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  • Well back in the day, Hunters were classified by most as Outlaws. And “Gunslinger” in Destiny has always been a term used to describe a Hunter. And again, Yor wanted people to think of him as a Hunter as part of hiding his old self.

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  • But did you consider this?: [spoiler]Dredgen Yor was Savathûn in disguise[/spoiler] Dredgen did not want to portray himself as a Hunter. He wanted to be seen as a new man, a monster, and a force of nature, but not a Hunter. Here all all the lore tabs talking about how he was seen by himself and others: https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/the-shadows-of-yor#dredgen-yor https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-thorn-3#dredgen-yor https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-thorn-4#dredgen-yor Yor was never compared to a Hunter in Destiny, not by himself or others. It is only us gamers who have built up the “Yor was a Hunter” idea. Yes, gunslinger is a term favored for Hunters, due to the Gunslinger subclass mostly. But that does not make it exclusive. This is like saying that only Hunters excel with snipers (stereotypes again), even though the only Guardian/Risen ever acclaimed for their sniping skills was Skorri, a Warlock. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/bite-of-the-fox Rezyl Azzir was a Titan, but without a doubt a skilled gunslinger with Rose. Right here, his use of the Rose was compared to a Hunter: “then spun his Rose with a confident Hunter’s twirl” One does not need to be a Hunter to have certain skill sets. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/legend-rezyl-azzir-the-triumphant-fall#dredgen-yor Who have been referred to as outlaws? I can only think of Shin. Maybe one other. That does not make outlaw a word for a Hunter.

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  • Editado por HollowedWayfarer: 3/25/2019 6:30:55 PM
    You know the description for Hunters when you are picking your Class literally says: [quote]You’re no outlaw. At least, not anymore.[/quote] Hunters were the outlaws of the Guardians.

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  • Editado por Grays_KS27: 3/25/2019 9:29:47 PM
    [spoiler]sorry for all my late replies. I’ve been busy, and I appreciate that you’ve been actively responding to me despite my fickle activity.[/spoiler] Ooh, thanks for telling me that. I hadn’t seen that line, or had forgotten it. However, it has nothing to do with Yor. Yor was literally an outlaw from the City, after supposedly killing Pahanin (one of my favorite Hunters ;~;). Outlaw [i]noun[/i] 1 : a person excluded from the benefit or protection of the law 2 a : a lawless person or a fugitive from the law b : a person or organization under a ban or restriction c : one that is unconventional or rebellious 3 : an animal (such as a horse) that is wild and unmanageable https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/cloak-of-dredgen-yor#dredgen-yor Of course, then we have this “Cloak of Dredgen Yor” I’d say that cloak makes you the winner of this discussion, but keep in mind that Destiny has many class-related items that involve Guardians of different classes. So there’s still a chance Yor isn’t a Hunter. You can find Pahanin (Hunter) quotes on several pieces of Tian and Warlock gear. Edit: but remember that Yor abandoned the Light. He ceased being a Guardian, shedding the constraints of Classes as the Drifter did. He never used the Light as a Hunter.

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  • Well like I was trying to say, around the time of Yor, Hunters were still considered as outlaws. It’s part of their nature. There is also the fact that Yor really was more associated to Hunters than any other Class. He was involved in their Lore, he wore their cloaks, and in the Taken King, Hunters has an artifact known as Dredgen Yor’s Rose.

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