{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
3/15/2019 10:20:53 PM
22
I'm becoming more and more convinced that the only argument that most B.net conservatives have is that "Demonrats bad cuz they r bad".
English
-
It isn’t often that someone tries to pass off a post attacking a political party as not being partisan, but it is always amusing.
-
Editado por Catty_Wampus22: 3/15/2019 11:50:11 PM[quote]It isn’t often that someone tries to pass off a post attacking a political party as not being partisan, but it is always amusing.[/quote] And you are asserting I never said anything negative of conservatives? You guys really are some special snowflakes. Not long ago some of you cried I was a commie liberal because I did t say enough bad things about Democrats, now I'm some under conservative because I made a thread about Democrats. Lol get over yourselves. I freely admit [u]anyone[/u] who is blindly partisan is an idiot.
-
Wtv dude. You got pissy because i put up articles showing how corrupt the conservative right is. You know it must be bad in Trump-land when even his supporters wont publicly admit to being conservative anymore. So much winning! [spoiler]LMAO![/spoiler]
-
[quote]Wtv dude. You got pissy because i put up articles showing how corrupt the conservative right is. You know it must be bad in Trump-land when even his supporters wont publicly admit to being conservative anymore. So much winning! [spoiler]LMAO![/spoiler][/quote] 1st how did I get picky? How was posting a link about a movie getting pissy? 2nd you say all this as if I ever supported or voted for Trump/the conservatives. 3rd as I already said you posted a bunch of articles that had nothing to do with the OP, all it was was whataboutism. [spoiler]LMAO[/spoiler]
-
[quote]1st how did I get picky? How was posting a link about a movie getting pissy?[/quote][quote]I dunno, I thought we were posting links that were unrelated to the OP[/quote] [quote]2nd you say all this as if I ever supported or voted for Trump/the conservatives.[/quote]> posts conservative talking points on a public forum > gets called conservative > [url=https://i.redd.it/04f4ca93kom21.jpg]*shocked face*[/url] [quote]3rd as I already said you posted a bunch of articles that had nothing to do with the OP, all it was was whataboutism.[/quote]> I never said it wasnt whataboutism 😝 [spoiler]ligma[/spoiler]
-
[quote][quote]1st how did I get picky? How was posting a link about a movie getting pissy?[/quote][quote]I dunno, I thought we were posting links that were unrelated to the OP[/quote] And what about that comment comes across as pissy?? [quote]2nd you say all this as if I ever supported or voted for Trump/the conservatives.[/quote]> posts conservative talking points on a public forum > gets called conservative > [url=https://i.redd.it/04f4ca93kom21.jpg]*shocked face*[/url] Are they conservative talking points? I haven't noticed those points brought up anywhere else. [quote]3rd as I already said you posted a bunch of articles that had nothing to do with the OP, all it was was whataboutism.[/quote]> I never said it wasnt whataboutism 😝 [spoiler]ligma[/spoiler][/quote] Then you are just as bad as all the Trumpettes when, instead of addressing the actual topic, they say what about Obama/Hillary!?!?!? I have posted about Trump and conservatives enough, I shouldn't have to include a long preamble in every post so I don't offend your delicate sensibilities. But since you obviously need it: Both sides are shit. Neither party gives a -blam!- about you. Both sides play you off of each other while they high five each other and sell you out.
-
[quote]I dunno, I thought we were posting links that were unrelated to the OP[/quote][quote]And what about that comment comes across as pissy??[/quote] Gee i wonder what it could be? [quote]Are they conservative talking points? I haven't noticed those points brought up anywhere else.[/quote] "I have never heard it so it must not be true". Hannity and Limbaugh do it all day everyday on their annoying ass radio shows. [quote]3rd as I already said you posted a bunch of articles that had nothing to do with the OP, all it was was whataboutism.[/quote][quote]> I never said it wasnt whataboutism 😝[/quote] ...and your original post was a whataboutism anyway.[spoiler]ligma💩[/spoiler][quote]Then you are just as bad as all the Trumpettes when, instead of addressing the actual topic, they say what about Obama/Hillary!?!?!? I have posted about Trump and conservatives enough, I shouldn't have to include a long preamble in every post so I don't offend your delicate sensibilities. But since you obviously need it: Both sides are shit. Neither party gives a -blam!- about you. Both sides play you off of each other while they high five each other and sell you out.[/quote]Ok ok you take a deep breath before you pass out or blow an artery. I know neither party gives a fat fig about me, one individual among 350 million. Thats called Democracy. I consider myself Centrist, maybe even a left-leaning Moderate, but never have i been Democrat or Republican, nor have i ever voted strictly along party lines. But you should consider the fact that you posted old, tired rhetoric about party-before-country, and tried to pass it off as some big revelation.
-
I dunno. If you took that comment as being pissy you must get offended easily. I don't pay any attention to Rush or Hannity so I have no idea what shit they spout on their shows. However, I still don't think it's a 'conservative talking point', I call it the natural cycle of partisan politics. Just like when Democrats spent 8 years bitching about all the countries we were bombing, NSA spying, warrantless wiretaps, punishing whistleblowers, extraordinary rendition, Iraq/Afghanistan, secret closed door meetings with lobbyists and industry over their regulations then claiming they HAD to be secret because national security, the patriot act, NDAA......under Bush, then when Obama continued those policies, even escalating some, most were silent about it. Suddenly none of those things mattered while Republicans bitched about Obama doing it.
-
If i got offended easily i would have stopped engaging with you. As to the rest, yeah its a cycle of hypocrisy and double-standards. Obama asked for $8 billion for southern border security and the Republicans lost their collective minds. "Its a terrible precedent for the greatest country in the world to be building walls with our neighbors, we need to show solidarity with Mexico!!!" Cause my dad likes Limbaugh and Hannity so much, i get to listen to both more than i want to. Today Rush was bashing Beto on policy agenda and his arrest record, then switched to defending comments that Beto made about his wife raising their kids mainly on her own while he was campaigning. All in like ten minutes, its unbelievable.
-
IRTrump, I'm appalled st you. I figured by now you'd know that posting B.net conservative gibberish would land you with the moniker of a B.net conservative. It's the same as me posting flat earth theories seriously.
-
[quote] And you are asserting I never said anything negative of conservatives? You guys really are some special snowflakes. [/quote] I never asserted anything. You, however, made a post denouncing a fictional monolith under the guise of a specific party as if that party is uniquely at fault for the point of contention. Those aren’t the words of a bipartisan, and I’m not going to just believe you mean something that is at odds with the post right in front of me. [quote]{Not long ago some of you cried I was a commie liberal because I did t say enough bad things about Democrats, now I'm some under conservative because I made a thread about Democrats. [/quote] 1. I am not automatically a part of some group that allegedly called you a liberal just because I’m calling you out here for something different. Get over your partisan bias. 2. “Not saying enough bad things about” Democrats is not at all comparable to making a post specifically attacking Democrats. Some conservative hack could still say you aren’t saying enough bad things about them. [quote] Lol get over yourselves.[/quote] So far, all you’ve said is that you went from “not saying enough bad” about Democrats to saying bad things about them. What is partisanship to you if you truly believe that [i]that[/i] is bipartisan?
-
It's not fictional. Go to any page that posts political stuff on Facebook. If it's a story about Trump there are comments saying things like "this is what happens when you vote party over policy" If it's a story about a contender for the 2020 Democrat ticket there are several comments saying they will vote for whoever wins the nomination. I'm just pointing out they can't have it both ways.
-
[quote]It's not fictional. Go to any page that posts political stuff on Facebook. If it's a story about Trump there are comments saying things like "this is what happens when you vote party over policy"[/quote] Prove that those comments also want to vote party over policy and that they are representative of Democrats enough to make this a thread specifically about Democrats. Oh, and also prove that this is unique of Democrats. That's what you have to do to make your post not about fiction. [quote]If it's a story about a contender for the 2020 Democrat ticket there are several comments saying they will vote for whoever wins the nomination.[/quote] OK. Prove that that's representative of the party as a whole. [quote]I'm just pointing out they can't have it both ways.[/quote] Who? Just the people who actually have that contradiction in their thinking or Democrats as a whole? Because if we look at your post, you are attributing that logic to Democrats as a whole. Which is to create a fictional monolith based on anecdote and personal bias.
-
Editado por Catty_Wampus22: 3/16/2019 3:08:02 AM[quote][quote]It's not fictional. Go to any page that posts political stuff on Facebook. If it's a story about Trump there are comments saying things like "this is what happens when you vote party over policy"[/quote] Prove that those comments also want to vote party over policy.[/quote] Well how can you pledge someone pledge their support when they don't know who the candidate is or where they stand on any issues? All they know is they will be a Democrat. Obviously this isn't indicative of 100% of Democrats. Do we really need such disclaimers? And some of it is identity politics as I've seen plenty people pledge support for candidates before they even released where they stood on any sort of issues.
-
[quote] Well how can you pledge someone pledge their support when they don't know who the candidate is or where they stand on any issues? All they know is they will be a Democrat.[/quote] You do realize that that doesn't cover the entirety of the "Logic" you are denouncing, right? [quote] Obviously this isn't indicative of 100% of Democrats. Do we really need such disclaimers?[/quote] Is it obvious? All you said was "Democrat". That pretty heavily implies you are taking about...you know...the group known as Democrats. Not some subgroup. And it doesn't matter if you didn't mean it to be indicative of 100% of them. I'm not the one saying something that implies a totality. Your post is what did that. And you've yet to show that the "logic" is either representative of Democrats or unique to them. [spoiler]I swear I'm going to get dizzy if you keep flipping the topic like this.[/spoiler] [spoiler]Also inb4 you respond about how your post wasn't meant to be just about democrats, even though we've been over that before.[/spoiler]
-
Actually it does. Saying I will vote for whoever wins the nomination [b][i][u]is[/u][/i][/b] the same as voting party over policy. I didn't mention Republicans because I've picked on them enough. The Democrats haven't been relevant enough the past couple years to bother mentioning that often. But now you have a flooded 2020 field filled with candidates who help illustrate both sides act the same in regards to their blind partisanship.
-
If you want to look at it in a blankly oversimplifying way, sure. But that ignores the “over policy” bit too much. You can vote for someone because they are a Democrat without putting that over policy. You seem to ignore the possibility that the party more closely aligned with your policy values than the other, which isn’t what you are talking about when you say “vote party over policy”. That would be more along the lines of voting for Donald Trump or Hillary specifically because you don’t want the alternative. You know, voting because they are a certain party rather than because their policies match your values. So saying “I’ll vote for whoever wins the nomination” does not [u]necessarily[/u] denote a lack of interest in policy. And you saying you’ve gone after Republicans doesn’t mean much by itself, especially when you earlier said you’ve been called out for “not going after Dems enough”. If you’ve really gone after Republicans, why wouldn’t you mention that earlier when it was first relevant?
-
[quote]So saying “I’ll vote for whoever wins the nomination” does not [u]necessarily[/u] denote a lack of interest in policy. [/quote] But it denotes where that candidate stands on issues doesn't matter, what matters is what party they belong to. So let's say Beto wins the nomination. He usually votes with the Republicans, he takes money from places most liberals would shun, he doesn't think greed is a motivator for health insurance companies and they aren't any of the problem. Many would still vote for him even though his beliefs are more aligned with the other party. Then you have Gillibrand having rallies put together by a Pfizer exec, Harris, as AG, deciding not to investigate Steve Mnuchin's bank after her office found it violated thousands of foreclosure laws (then coincidentally being the only Democrat Mnuchin donated money to afterwards).....if a Republican did those things many of these same people pledging their support for those candidates would be having a fit and blasting them for it. But as long as it's their team...meh, no big deal! Better than that other guy!
-
[quote] But it denotes where that candidate stands on issues doesn't matter, what matters is what party they belong to. [/quote] No, it doesn’t. All it says is that they are voting for their party, not why. Saying you will vote for your party doesn’t automatically mean you put more value in your party than in policy. [quote]So let's say Beto wins the nomination. He usually votes with the Republicans, he takes money from places most liberals would shun, he doesn't think greed is a motivator for health insurance companies and they aren't any of the problem. Many would still vote for him even though his beliefs are more aligned with the other party. [/quote] Ok? That doesn’t mean they’ll vote for him when he isn’t put up against someone even farther from their views. Rest of that was a tangential rant and doesn necessities further response than what I’ve given.
-
I'm a conservative now??
-
My apologies. I meant fools, but "B.net conservative" is the synonym.
-
[quote]My apologies. I meant fools, but "B.net conservative" is the synonym.[/quote] You're excused. Although, the only fools I see here are the ones who believe in the two party system lol
