Bungie you need to address this. Its getting really annoying that Spectral Blades is so tanky and ivasive. And for Shaxx's sake, look at the duration on that thing.. Seriously, how can you not see its a bit too good? And look, Im not saying it should be nerfed, heck Id prefer you buff other supers. Look at Warlocks right now. They have the worst supers for PvP. I dont need some pleb telling me to get good. Dawnblade? The hit registration needs some work. Make blades bigger and ALWAYS be a one hit kill. I dont need to see 145 damage and then get blasted by a Dusk Rock Blue. Nova Warp? Need I say much? Stormcaller? He needs to be just as tanky as Spectral. And the damage and duration needs to be amped up. Nova Bomb? Dramatically increase the explosion radius of both Nova Bomb. Similar to the Titans Meteor super.
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Editado por Tk: 3/15/2019 6:54:48 PMThe best warlocks have is dawnblade. Which has a very weak neutral game. Blades dont register half the time. Weak damage. Can easily be dodged. Maps are too small so burst gliding you hit the walls. Rift is just slow and weak (60 seconds to charge). Yup, thats the best warlocks can do. Hunters have great neutral game, best jump, invis, wombo combo, spectral blades which is the best roaming super with high resistance, removed from radar, wallhacks, no -blam!-ing cost for r1 attacks allowing you to spam. Yup, great class balance. Im convinced bungie are just all hunter mains. Playing warlocks in pvp is handicapping yourself and playing crucible in hardmode. Not much point using them over hunters/titans.
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1 RespuestaEditado por Ubisuccle: 3/15/2019 10:29:10 PMOk... Dawnblade on PC needs no changes. Besides spectral spam and code of the jugglenut striker its the only super that you see and people get off like 5-8 kills with it in small maps. Currently there is no penalty for spamming with spectral so that is something that must be addressed however other supers should be buffed slightly to bring them in like with the god tier ones.
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It's definitely out of hand.
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The amount of times I’ve been killed by spectral blades and then spawn killed two more times before that shit runs out is ridiculous
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It's literally a perfect super with 0 downside. The fact that you have to get up close and personal is negated by the invisibility. It also lasts forever, frequently allowing you to kill the people you already killed as they respawn on the other side of the map. The neutral game is insane in the current meta, complimenting people who crouch behind a corner with Chaperone+Lunas to turn invisible, plus the infamous wombo-combo of smoke+nade. I don't want to see it nerfed to as bad as it was when it launched but this is one of the most broken supers destiny has ever seen. At least you could SEE a D1 bladedancer coming for you lol.
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83 RespuestasEditado por Crucify: 3/14/2019 5:26:22 PMSpectral Blades is literal cheat codes. Any other game if something like this existed people would get banned for using it. It is absolutely beyond me how, a super that has the highest damage res in the game, also doesn't blip the radar, get's mapwide wall hacks, is immune to any tracking mechanics AND can spam its light attack 28-32 times AND has the longest duration. Even Blade Barrage has been somewhat humbled in the last update but not spectral aids. EDIT: Out of every spectral blades user you see in the game, how many times do you see anybody proc flawless execution? Screams volumes about how insane the super is when that's the only reason people play it.
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4 RespuestasIf your whole team gets wiped it’s on your team, you can literally teamshot a spectral and eviscerating them from the mortal plane before they even get close
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Spectrals weakness is jumping unless your a hunter and every other super can kill it in one shot
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You had me until you acted like Bottom Dawn Blade wasn't actually the best super in the game. It has almost no counters, insane speed, a long base duration and it gets energy back on kills, tracking, and a decent on command heal. Maybe on Console its different, but on PC Dawn Blade is unequivocally the best super and sees a ton of use in Comp and QP.
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Spectral blades spam is annoying as sin. Nova warp nerf went to far. The rest are fine...... Dawn blade is amazing (I just wish the flame effects weren’t so large) so you can hit targets. Storm trance needs a small range increases and small damage resistance buff.
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4 RespuestasEditado por ThisIsMyBung1eAccount: 3/16/2019 9:44:35 AMPeople always seem to say spectral blades lasts for ages but for me it barely lasts for 20 seconds if I don’t actually attack anyone - because it’s too slow to catch up. That’s why I went and got blade barrage. What’s up with that? Dawnblade, for example, lasts hours compared to that.
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2 RespuestasOkay, cool, but also reduce how often one can get their super. Bring back those beta times.
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considering spectral blades is a stealth super, shouldn't it punish those who just rb at an opponent? a dr nerf would seem justified imo
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Should be able to one headshot kill all supers imo with high damage snipers.
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13 RespuestasEditado por Loot: 3/14/2019 4:34:32 PM... I think Spectrals duration should be nerfed, and all armor on supers should be nerfed, and fix Sentinel's hit detection... [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]
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Golden hunt3r where you at ? Tell these people how warlock is better than hunters
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I don’t like how when someone else someone uses spectral they can swipe across the map, kill me, pick up 4-5 kills then kill me again with no Gwisin. But when I use spectral it run outs faster
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11 RespuestasIts gotten so bad with Warlocks there is a Class Meta now. Look at all your kills and you will see this trend of kills in this order from most to least: 1. Hunters 2. Titans 3. Warlocks The community knows how bad Warlocks suck in PVP compared to the other two classes and most don't play Warlocks anymore in PVP. The typical retort to this argument is "learn how to play a Warlock". Well I can give Warlock lessons but I'm about to the point that I'm going to stop playing my Warlock (main) and switch to my "easy button" Hunter.
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7 RespuestasI play with quite a few high end pvp (NF level) warlocks and they will tell you nova warp is not useless. While it isn’t the most effective subclass in the cruicible now, it still has the potential to be lethal due to its strong neutral and alright super. Not to mention that the other warlock supers are incredible powerful now, especially due to the new warlock exotic that lets you give your grenade for a stronger arc soul. People need to put more effort into trying new strategies instead of playing the brain dead meta. I am personally a fan of top tree nightstalker with frosties for quick dodges; and liars handshake is quite fun to experiment with. Try something new.
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10 RespuestasEditado por Venium: 3/15/2019 1:09:26 PMSolution 1: Blade Barrage Solution 2: Nova Bomb Solution 3: Golden Gun (Sharpshooter Tree) Solution 4: Fist of Havoc (All Trees Work) Solution 5: Sunbreaker (All Trees Work) Solution 6: Daybreak (With Burst Glide Equipped) Solution 7: Arcstrider (Fore Palm Heavy Attack ohk's supers) (Or Reflect to stun melee Supers, and attacks) Solution 8: 1v1 (As in use Spectral Blades too :3) Solution 9: Nova Warp Surprisingly works. (Know how to use it though 😂) Solution 10: Sentinel Shield Bash (As in Jump 1st, then attack) Solution 11: Certain Weapons like: Wardcliff Coil, Sleeper Simulant, Legend of Acrius, Tractor Cannon (Boop Gun 😂), etc. Solution... 12?: [spoiler]Get the F*** OUTTA THERE!![/spoiler]
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NOVA BOMB DELETES YOU IF YOU ARE ITS ENTIRE SIZE AWAY FROM IT WITH A WALL BETWEEN YOU! HOW DOES THAT MEAN IT NEEDS EXPANDING! Besides that, totally agree. Warlocks need better supers. Oh and spectral blades lasts for approximately 1 second (by which I mean it lasts 20 seconds if you spend the entire super not attacking because you’re 6 meters behind someone you’re chasing and not 2 which is the max range) so it’s time doesn’t need dropping AT ALL.
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Their melee aim assist needs a huge reduction in general. So many times, an enemy will be at the very side of my screen and my melee will gravitate to them. Not how it should work. As for Spectral Blades, it needs to behave more like an ambush super. Right now, it’s being used like Arcstaff and it’s not suffering for functioning outside its intended purpose (which everything else does). In my opinion, once you break your invisibility your super should drain faster and your melee lunge range should be reduced (sound familiar warlocks?). While invisible, though, super drain should be slower and your first melee should have extra range. Keeps it as an ambush super while punishing those who run around thinking it’ll tank a rocket.
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Downvote
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3 RespuestasYou people are just annoyed because you’re seeing it more now due to the thorn quest void component. Relax, give it a week and it won’t be such a “problem.”
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14 RespuestasWhile grinding Thorn, every Spectral user just swings away until they hit someone. I barely see the skill involved with this super. It's more cringy than annoying.