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3/14/2019 6:10:24 AM
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Should we invite some no name players at random to this event or content creators with a huge following who can easily spread the news of changes and updates coming to the game?
By that logic, highschool reporters should be invited to presidential adresses instead of real news channel reporters.
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The analogy isn't a good one. High school reporters are more likely to convey the words as spoken, relay the facts and try as much as possible to do the right thing because their very role and future depends on it. The "professional" media are so bent by the power they can turn any story into something that suits their own obviously biased agenda. So sure, if it's down to your analogy to try to put down those seeking balance over those that want to serve themselves and their agenda, then bring on the high school reporters and let's hear just what they can put out.
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A highschool reporter can "convey the word spoken" to an audience about the size of a highschool. Where as a media outlet can broadcast the news to hundreds of thousands. Also in that analysis, you claim that streamers wouldnt report on what happened, or theyd warp it to their needs, but no one of us picked at random would do it any differently, it would be exaggerated, it would be bias, full of hyberbolic examples and twisted perspectives. You can already see this by reading "Nerf X" posts, ive seen far to many open with "it one shots cross map" and sometimes adding "full health over shield out of a super" when talking about what a weapon can do. So by any account its not a good idea to invite randoms.
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So the truth to the few or lies to the masses? That's why I pointed out the bad analogy. It actually does your valid argument a big disservice. My point is you have a point, the analogy ruins it.
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Im sure any analogy i made would have had backlash, appreciate the support though, ill have to think of a better one, i personally just like the humor of imagining a highschool freshman in a crowd of reporters raising his hand for a question to the president. I feel it illistrates the ridiculousness of the idea well.
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Can I answer that with an analogy? Consider your thoughts a train, you are level and forward in what you want to do and where you want to go. But other people can attempt to take you off the path. They make junctions to divert you, but go straight. If one of those junctions is making you consider your direction stop. Find out if it's worth travelling then make a choice. It may be right or wrong but that is your decision. You're the one who knows where you want to go. Get there. But don't think you're way is ALWAYS the best way. I'm old now, and thinking ahead with tunnel vision hasn't always been the best direction. Be open to everything but don't be directed unless you know it's the right thing to do. Sorry. I'm drunk. 👍
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Editado por Aesc3728: 3/15/2019 10:18:53 PMGood analogy, another one id often use is imagine being an artist, half way through painting your magnium opus, a group of art critics burst in and start telling you what to change, the would-be artists grab brushes and begin contributing their part to your masterpiece, all at the same time, at the end, your left with a mess void of its original vision. Thats what the feedback forum contributes.
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That one works. As a musical and visual artist, that one works.
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This. A lot of sub 80 ideas and philosophy gets tossed around chat boards.
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I'd rather have a group of no names during a live streamed summit. That way everyone can watch it with their favorite streamer.
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No... idiot, but, you could have both.
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underrated reply
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Streamers and players have completely different incentives, goals and reasons to play Destiny 2.
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Streamers ARE the players. They sink tonnes of time into the game and know it better than anyone else does. If the game can’t entertain the chat or viewers of the content creators/streamers, then they have no incentive to play that game. There’s literally no reason why the streamers wouldn’t want the game to improve for the widest audience available, because it creates more foot traffic to their channels.
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Out of the 100 or so friends I had in D1, and many who who raided, none raid now on a weekly basis. That’s a big loss as I see it.
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I mean more people quit D1. Yet here we all are
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But, it's all academic now - isn't it?
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Ok. Explain.
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No they do not. Idk where that lie came from but it simply isn't true
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Usually the followings that gather are in their own little bubble. That being said they have the loudest voices, and their "peers" to back them up because gangs are a thing. However, the truly unnerving thing about this is that content creators benefit immensely on things that are insanely convoluted to get more padding in their videos, more "content" to stream to gain that sweet ad revenue and also on top of that potentially offer their "services" to 3rd party websites, to help people get certain things for a price that they have no problem obtaining, but have the audacity to make things artificially difficult on purpose for the rest so they themselves can take advantage of them. It's genius in theory, but the Summit doesn't actually do anything. The last summit only had a few tweaks here and there from the feedback but ultimately Forsaken was pretty much already built and ready to go. There is no way the summit had any real impact and was just a way for Bungie to get the most out of their advertising. Bungie only advertises to their own playerbase, but what better way than to have the playerbase advertise for you!
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First of all nice false narrative. Streamers give feedback that benefits them financially at the cost of the average players experience. See enhancement cores. They have to go under an NDA so they aren’t spreading anything. They aren’t loyal to D2 and if they suggest something Bungie acts on the screws up the game and loses Bungie customers they just move on to the next game. Finally they preach to the converted and their audience is made of destiny players who already buy the content drops so as a advertising tool they are woefully under privileged. P.S. - This is the kind of thing Activision paid for. If this wasn’t on the books before the split this is for sure coming out of the communities hide in silver, not content creators.
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What doesn't make sense is why streamers would opt for a game that caters to them and in doing so sabotage their player bases interest in playing Which in turn sabotaged the streamers monetary gain. That kind of logic seems a bit ridiculous
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Because then they can make tons of visits in their "how to..." videos. You create the problem, only you have the solution... profit. Not hard to get.
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But why make a how to video for 50 people when if you promote a better game you can make a how to video for 1000 people? Good games have how to videos as well. And are streamable
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Because it will be watched by far more than 50 people. And, as said by someone in this thread, the streamers have a loyal fanbase that will watch every single video of them even if it is said streamer going to the bathroom. Also, as said before by that same someone, there's plenty of other games they can jump in if they see D2 videos start to do bad. So they don't give a single flying fúck about the game and will flee before the ship sinks. That's why the streamers are the last people bungie should listen. They'll ask for longer grinds, harder or overcomplicated raid phases for longer streams/videos so they get more visits and money. As I said... it's easy to understand and it's clear. If you say you don't get something that simple you are just trolling.
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So having more destiny players doesn't matter?
