Compared to TTK, Forsaken is pretty incredible.

Why are you still here then? You cry like your in an abusive relationship. Maybe go play another game.

Because they started over instead of adding on to what they had. Because they are STILL trying to force the awkward PvE/PvP blend. Because the game has a wide variety of very different activity and as a result different types of gamers and it’s not possible to make the game be everything to everyone. It’s just not. Because instead of opening the game up and letting players play the activities they like to earn gear they are trying to unrealistically force the entirety of the experience onto everyone. Because they are heavily dictating player experiences. If Season of the Drifter is any indication, they appear to have picked a direction for the game. It is not the direction that I’d like to see it go. I do not expect to be excited about D3 and I doubt I’ll get it at launch. At best, they are reducing it to a game that I get as a bundle on sale at Y2 where I can one and done the story until the next bundle of content goes on sale toward the end of the game’s life cycle. Which didn’t work with D1 as I never even got Rise of Iron.

One word... Activision. That company is a complete cancer to anything it touches making any project they publish die prematurely like a child from the make a wish foundation [spoiler]all jokes aside Activision as a whole could care less about community feedback and if the game is well received by the player base the only thing that matters to them is making cash grabs through micro transactions and sh*tty rushed deadlines for content to milk out the games remaining attention span as fast as possible before scraping it and working on a new game. It’s exactly what the call of duty cycle is and it’s what destiny would’ve turned into if bungie never cut their ties with them completely. That is why this game isn’t great after 4 years [/spoiler]

Activision schedules and reboots

3.5 years

Because loot shooter players are apparently the biggest gramma carebears in the world. Everyone is like "Yeah, well, (Game that came out 4 years ago) sucked at first too! Give 'em a chance!" Every game in this genre gets to start from square 1.

Since bungie split with Activision, they can now claim that D3 had to be started over again midcycle. They have an excuse for launching D3 unfinished

The game as a whole has just taken one step forward and two steps back in my opinion. They have made some significant improvements but with those improvements have come major setbacks that have just taken a lot of the fun out of the game. What happened to heroic strikes? Hard mode raids? Trials of osiris? A crucible that was fun and that just about everyone enjoyed even if they werent big on pvp? Heroic strikes no longer exist, and “vanguard strikes” are borderline pointless. “grinding strikes” is no longer an activity that people do. Hard mode raids don’t exist. We have had one raid that has received widespread praise (last wish), with the other being widely disliked (leviathan), and three that are hardly even raids and are moreso just big strikes. By this point in destiny 1 we had received two masterpiece raids that just about everyone significantly enjoyed, with the other (crotas end) not even being that bad. All of these had hard mode options that people had a reason to run and king’s fall introduced challenges, which are now very watered down. Trials of osiris and of the nine are gone with confirmation of not returning in the foreseeable future, leaving competitive, a gamemode where Netlimiter 4.0 is better than any gun, to be the endgame pvp content. Crucible is no longer fun according to a majority of the playerbase and is being pretty much neglected in terms of both content and sandbox updates. Most casuals hate it because of an overwhelming lack of balance and fun, some even going as far as to say it “ruins” the game and that the game would be better off without it, an argument which was unheardof in destiny 1. Even the good players and people who generally enjoy crucible like myself are moving on to other games because it is just boring and unfun.

Because d1 was never that good. And instead of asking for a product better than D1, players asked for a D1 copy

Careful when you throw the “A” word around here...the jimmies come up from the depths lol

Hey, at least we didnt get banned for all the bugs, glitches, and exploits...

It's been 7 hours and 15 days...

It's been six years since they switched the site over to this hellhole and they still havent brought TBs back

With Activision setting deadlines for release there will be no excuses for releasing an unfinished D3.