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Editado por Dredgen Araphel: 2/22/2019 3:05:16 AM
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Well that didn't take long.Just admit it Nova Warp was your trump card and without it you can't pull off your super inflated stats.You could give 2 shhits about balance because before it got nerfed you said it shouldn't and it was fair. You use hunters and titans as your argument but you have not transitioned to neither class.You are proving every reason why it was a crutch because all of a sudden warlocks are unusable due to a super that is relatively new.Makes me wonder what they were doing before nova warp.
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  • I hope you aren't addressing me seen as I never even played Nova warp really? If you you are just assumptions and not worth my time. I main top tree dawn and have been playing top tree storm in PVP too. Never crunched on Nova Warp ever.

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  • [quote]Restore speed to what it was. Ensure the armor is equally as strong as other roaming supers and not stronger. Decrease original "full charge blast" radius by 15% and see how that goes. Decrease original super length by 3 seconds. Allow it to one shot other supers but increase the max charge blast charge time by 1 second and see how that goes. (I think it needs to retain the ability to ohk other supers with a fully charged blast because otherwise the animation of getting off another single small blast is way too slow. That's it and nothing more.[/quote] See even your suggestions prove my point.This litteraly reverts Nova back to what it was and doesn't change anything its not even a nerf or a rebalance.This was your suggestion to fix it but you have never used or played with this super though.You see how this looks?

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  • I said I never crutched on it or used it much while it was op. That doesn't mean I never used it once.

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  • This "literally" reverts nova warp to what it was? Ahh 3rd and 4th line of my suggestions disprove you right there.

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  • Do you even know how hard that is to believe coming from a guy who vehemently advocates Nova warp?All of your posts are complete bias and don't even have a viable way it could've been balanced.Lets say you never used it before. Than how in the world could you even speak on this super when have no experience on this super?For a guy who mains top tree you only talk about Nova warp.I used and still use Nova warp and know first hand how powerful the super was.The super can't be balanced its impossible to buff it and it be balanced and you already see that it can't be nerfed and be used.Nova warp needs a full blown rework.

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  • Because that is the glaring issue, they took something that was op and made it useless when compared to other supers. I find it so funny how you cant understand the basic concept of me wanting the Warlock classes to be in league with the other supers out there. The one that is not on the same level is Nova warp so its the obvious option to biff first. Regardless of whether i used it much in the past or whatever it is weaker then all other supers and was over nerfed. Any fair minded person be it titan hunter or warlock main should want it buffed to be on par with other supers. If not then it would appear they are the bias ones or unfairly minded at least.

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  • I wouldn't say warlocks are unusable but they did go overboard with the nerf and before nova warp was added we were going up against supers that didn't exist. Before the introduction of new supers I could go up against any super just fine but you can't expect me to pretend it doesn't exist and run old supers while it'll put me at a disadvantage. Did it need a nerf? Yes it did but what they did was kill it completely because it's not even useful in PVE.

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  • As someone who used well of Radiance more than pre nerf Nova warp for pvp Always thought it kinda sucked. But now it really does suck.

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  • Well it didn't suck until now.Before the nerf it was outrageous.

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  • I agree it was OP and I have stated that many times but it was over nerfed and now is useless. I'm done trying to get such a basic concept through to you Ace616. Clearly having sub classes on the same level as each other or near enough is not a concept you seem to agree with.

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  • I just want nova warp to get remotely close to what it was for PVE. PVP is whatever, I'll accept that it was easy as shit to get kills with it. But it really hurts in PVE when you've got a super that should really be renamed a "meh"

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  • 3 shot gunslingers who like crucible,nova warp users post nerf,sasquatches trying to conquer zeta reticule on flying space unicorns that shoot lasers.The most rare beings in the universe

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  • Editado por Dredgen Araphel: 2/22/2019 3:30:12 AM
    I wouldn't care if it got a pve buff though why would anyone use nova warp in pve is beyond me.Nova warp was a nightmare in pvp just like spectral and blades are.I've said it numerous times the super was broke but at this point I couldn't care less if they buff it so long as they remove the hunter nerfs.If they wanna have crutches than give it to them so longs i keep mine and the same goes for titans.

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  • nova warp in pve was great for clearing ads, and I'm pretty sure it's what I used to get Whisper of the Worm back when I did it. You seem to think that it's an all or nothing situation. Either buff EVERYTHING back to where it was, or keep everything nerfed. That's such an infantile thought process, to me. Like, either nobody gets cookies, or everyone does. Hunters post-nerf are still very good, and people argue that blade barrage is more enjoyable. Nova warp was busted, yes, but now it's just a waste to use in pvp AND pve. If they do nothing in pvp, then at least bring it back to where it was for pve. Stop thinking there's only one game mode that matters. Everyone thinks "how come pvp" and "how come pve" when it's a frigging pvp AND pve game. Just cuz ya don't play one aspect of it, doesn't mean that people that do should suffer.

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  • The same can be said to you good sir. You like many others like to use hunters as the basis for any debate but don't play them.If hunters were destroyed right now i can swap to another class and be just as effective. The same can't be said for a majority of people.

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  • If nobody advocated for how useless warlocks have become then what purpose would the class be. Yeah why not everyone just become hunters. Why not go into pvp and see 6 hunters and 6 spectral/blade barrages. That there makes no sense. If Hunters were nerfed to the ground like Warlocks are your last option is Titans because you know very well you’re not going to be using a warlock because they’re useless now against other classes

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  • I've played a lot of hunter, but didn't really wanna commit time in forsaken to them until recently. My friends are hunter mains, and they also admit that blade barrage was just an easy wipe panic mode with a free super regen if you had shards equipped. And spectral blades are still the strongest super right now, with dawnblade at a very close second. Don't look at my play history and judge me, without me looking at your inability to secure a win in crucible, and your lack of pve playtime.

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  • Editado por Dredgen Araphel: 2/22/2019 4:22:57 AM
    First off that is also untrue.I win a good portion off my games just not all of them.Im not a pve player its boring asf and has no incentive.You are a warlock main and nearly a warlock purest.I judged you because like all warlock mains there is complete bias and finger pointing at the other classes especially the hunter.

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  • lol "this guy plays warlock therefore he's elitist." I'm not out here preaching the good word, man. You're projecting right now. I'm simply stating that I'd like the super to at least not be the worst decision in pve for pretty much any class. I'm not calling for hunters to get nerfed. I think that the nerfs that were already made have made hunters less reliant on panicking to get some kills. Spectral Blades is still one of the best supers in the game, like I've said. This is such a petty thing, that you think if warlocks get some tuning to make a frankly useless super less useless, that hunters should get a piece of the pie too. I would much rather see them help fix nightstalker, than bring back instawin blade barrage.

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  • Never said anything you mentioned and im a hunter main i just dabble in the other classes alot.I said Nova can go back exactly the way it was just put the hunter stuff back the way they were.I never said buff but Nova isn't impossible to use just really difficult in pvp and impossible in pve.Im hardly an elitist im not even an elite im an average player.

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  • First off Nova was hardly used in pve second i cool for it getting buffed so longs they undo the hunters nerfs. I'm cool with it going back exactly the way it was as long as they remove the hunter nerfs.

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  • where's the source that nobody used nova warp for pve? Also, no. I don't think hunters need to be un-nerfed. I think you need to accept that you can't get free wins with hunters. Titans are about to get hit with the skating nerf as well as OEM being nerfed. What about hunters do you think needs to be un-nerfed in the first place? People aren't asking for nova warp to be completely reverted to pre-nerf. They want it readjusted to not be shit anymore.

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  • That is completely untrue. I will admit not everyone is calling for it to go back the way it was but a vast majority are.Im just saying if the revert nova than revert hunters.Its presumptuous to assume one should stay restrained and the other isn't.Like i said you can have your crutch just give me back mine.Completely fair trade.

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  • Again, I need sources for the "nobody used nova warp in pve" claim. I don't want my crutch, and hunters still have theirs. Work on getting better as a player than relying on your super to panic you through some tough times.

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  • I have an arsenal of supers im not relying on one i can switch at will and still be good.Nobody uses nova warp for pve its numbers don't even come close to supers like chaos reach.Just because blades is usable doesn't make it broken.How are you going to tell me to improve when im a 1.02 K/D(Average)and you are a .95 (Below average)?Like i said Novawarpers don't want compromise or equality they just want to trample.Waste of breath same argument same result.

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