Where did I day ohk? Oh, thats right I didnt. I did say that it takes just as long to kill adds now with a level 650 as it did at level 1, so yeah, its fcuking stupid especially when the game is based on increasing power. As far as the raid and forges go, theres a difference between power increasing with level and power locking to keep you out of an activity. For example, lets say at 580 I was too underpowered to cause damage in the first forge. I could still kill everything outside the forge the same as I did at 400. All they did was level lock the forge behind a 600+ gate. And once I hit 650 and could cause normal damage in the forge I still cause the exact same damage outside the forge at 650 as I did at 580. My weapons arent more powerful. My abilities arent more powerful. So whats the fcuking point of leveling up? There is none in reality other than to keep you chasing the carrot. Another example, back in Borderlands, when you found new weapons at a higher level they were actually more powerful than lower level weapons. Destinys infusion method changes nothing on the weapons power other than a number that means nothing. Same gun, same perks, same damage. Jesus, even the old Ratchet and Clank games leveled up weapons as you used them and they became more and more powerful.