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Editado por Zukioh:
2/15/2019 5:42:39 PM
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Three personal (but relevant) reasons Trials can't be gone "indefinitely"
Trials of Osiris was the most streamed, most watched and most participated-in Destiny PvP activity. There's no denying that. If THAT isn't reason enough for Bungie to bring it back (it should be), here are three more personal reasons that I feel Destiny needs Trials.
1- Trials of Osiris in D1 gave a very sub-average player like me a reason to improve. Everyone had a shot. Yes, it was difficult, but that's what made it rewarding. Before Trials, I played PvP blindly, just running around, shooting, throwing time out the window. Trials turned me into a critical player. I started watching YouTube videos, subbed to the CruciblePlaybook on Reddit, watched Kraftyy on Twitch, and made friends like myself who hadn't gone to the Lighthouse but really wanted to improve and get there some day.
2- Trials of Osiris offered a pinnacle reward that no loot will EVER be able to replace. The simple fact that I fought tooth and nail to the Lighthouse and made it, is my single hardest most memorable Destiny moment. Honestly, it's probably top 10 moments of my gaming career and my entire life. I'm married and have 2 kids which is pretty awesome. If I had to rank them it would be like 1- Wedding Day, 2- Lighthouse 3- First child... Just kidding, but you know what I mean! That feeling! It felt SO GOOD!
3- the competitive playlist is NOT an adequate substitute for endgame PvP. There are two ways the competitive playlist shakes down. Either you play until you get the seasonal award and quit because it's not as fun as quickplay (me), OR you don't play at all because you've progressed in the ranks to the point where you can't find a match or just straight up can't enjoy the game because you get matched against better players every single match. Trials was random, you might get stomped but you take what you can learn, get a new card and try again. You also might get really lucky and make it to five or seven wins that week to earn your armor/weapon!
Destiny 2 needs Trials back. It needs high-stakes, limited time, PvP activities. In the TWAB the Bungie Dev team expressed that their player base is different from how it used to be. In my opinion, that is because the Trials population has left in masses. Not entirely, I mean, I still stick around and get my weekly powerful engram from 5 crucible matches *woot woot /s* but Bungie- you can bring them back. You can bring Kraftyy and DrLupo back every Friday. You can put Destiny 2 at the top of the Twitch directory again. You can give me a reason to look forward to Friday again. You can give me a reason to stop working on Friday and start watching streamers again. Please... I'm getting raises and getting business stuff done and it's your fault!
Bring back Trials, do it right, don't give up on it. Trials and Destiny are peanut butter and jelly. And I can only eat jelly sandwiches for so long before other sandwiches (games) start looking better.
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Trials is toxic
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I agree. Right now most endgame is centered around PvE, which I like, but I still think they need a more streamlined system for PvP endgame.
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Indefinitely does not mean forever. It simply means that there is no set time for its return.
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1 RespuestaYou forgot the number one money maker for streamers selling flawless carries. That right there is reason enough not to bring it back. That and all the bitching , toxic attitude and all the great weapons and abilities ruined for PVE players because of trials. The forums are full of complaints about comp and QP, and bringing back trials is just going to just make it worse.
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4 RespuestasYou saying you're a aub-average player is all you need to see as to why Trials now wouldn't be like Trials ever before. You wont have NF/LH. You wont get better and you'll lose. Bungie said this without saying it. They painted themselves into a corner with these guns.
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Trials and Destiny are not peanut butter and jelly dude, it's oil and water. You've left A LOT out.
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1 RespuestaEditado por ghostx78x: 2/16/2019 5:02:08 PMBiggest reason I miss Trials: I am an older player but was still able to go flawless 3 or 4 times with friends and a bunch of times with help from streamers- getting all of the loot. It took months and months of learning and dedication- even years. Flash forward to our much hated comp system today- it’s super easy to get Luna’s but completely impossible for me to get Not Forgotten. No reason to even try to play comp after the first week in the season I have the pinnacle weapons. Then it’s 3 months of reading hate posts about comp and looking at account recovery spam on the lfg. It’s a shitshow.
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1 RespuestaIf trials came back, the "tri-whores" would go back to it and the rest of us pvpeons could actually stomach playing comp on wknds to advance those quests. Being on either side of a pubstomp is NOT a fun thing.
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Trials was only fun for the first 2 months of it's D1 release. Nearly everything that's been nerfed in this game has been a result of that. Sadly, it's often the shit doesn't doesn't need to be nerfed that got the worst of it. D2 trials was also garbage.
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6 RespuestasTrials is gone for good. If a "pinnacle PvP mode" returns, it will not be anything recognizable as Trials of Osiris. 1. Vanilla Destiny 2 was Bungie's love letter to the competitive PVP community. But it destroyed the PVE end-game....fractured the player base....only to have that same community abandon the game and go play Fortnite. 2. Bungie trashed their reputation and suffered the humiliation of having to roll back ALL the changes they made to the franchise to try to make PVP more "balanced and competitive". In order to win back the PVE fanbase....and return the power-fantasy to the game. 3. Returning Trials to the game would put us RIGHT back on that same course towards a vanilla D2 sandbox....at a time when this franchise can least afford to be seen watering down the power-fantasy. Not with Anthem and The Division 2 nipping at their heels. Bungie was always going to have to decide if it was a PVE or a PVP game. One system can't serve those two masters at the same time. You either get a good PVE game....with trash PVP (Y3 D1)....or you wind up with a serviceable PVP game...that's broken as a loot game (Y1 D2)
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None of those are reasons it cannot be removed indefinitely. [quote]do it right, don't give up on it[/quote] This is what they are saying they are trying to do. Indefinitely just means they have no current schedule to bring it back.
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2 RespuestasTrials sucks. The only reason I’d want it back to to get everyone -blam!-ing else out of QP so maybe I can actually ENJOY playing crucible for once.
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1 RespuestaAm I wrong in thinking to some people trials was the equivalent of a raid for a lot of Destiny players? If I’m right haven’t you basically been ripped off by its removal with no plan to replace it?
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3 RespuestasTrials will be coming back. Bungie know the player base will decline with Anthem, Division 2 etc. Trials and SRL will be kept for the next paid DLC . Maybe the end of the year.
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Very well written and great points. Going to that lighthouse the first time is something no Destiny player will ever forget.
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4 RespuestasBungie does what they want to do NOT what they should do . BUNGIE IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS BECAUSE IF THEY DID IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME INSTEAD OF THE DISASTER IT IS. Triles was the most streamed and played and had the most dedicated fan base right . BUT THEY CHOSE TO AXE IT ANYWAY. ENOUGH SAID.
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i think they should just bring something new, I dont know why everyone wants the old stuff back. sure trials was fun but im not saying a new game mode cant be similar to trials bungie could build on the trials idea and come out with something fresh.
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7 RespuestasNot just that the player base is different. Bungie has a vision for Destiny, something that the old D1 Trials can no longer accomplish, thus the prototype. Ask yourself why Trials of the Nine failed. Bringing back Trials of Osiris in D2 will not solve any problems. If anything it would be equivalent to Annual Pass content. Just something to do for awhile until the next thing comes along. *cough* Joker's Wild *cough*
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6 RespuestasJust a reminder that if you have feedback for Bungie, THIS is the way to frame it. Y’all wonder why Bungie never listens? It’s because you throw tantrums and go “THIS THING SUCKS AND I DONT LIKE IT” without providing suggestions on how to improve it or even reasons for why you don’t like it. Very good post, some of y’all really need to take notes.
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Editado por CookieNiki: 2/16/2019 12:42:38 PM[quote]Trials of Osiris was the most streamed, most watched and most participated-in Destiny PvP activity.[/quote] Dude, Destiny 1 has long gone and will never come back as it was. The same with Trials of Osiris, it had it's time and now is long dead and buried. Most, if not all, of their PvP hardcore players have moved on to greener pastures and even Bungie knows they will not come back in any significant amount to play a recycled D2 Trials. New fun and competitive PvP games have born and those players are having fun playing them and will stay there. Destiny needs a coherent vision of what it wants to be as a game and stick with that vision. Unfortunately all the Bungie showed during the last 4,5 years was that they don't really know what Destiny should be. That's why they keep experimenting all over the game and damaging it in the process.
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3 Respuestasmy money is on the craze that is battle royal being the new trials
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2 RespuestasYep lupo jake krafty. All them basicly were told to go play other games for a while. Come back in bout a year as we start preparing for d3
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3 Reasons that Trials should stay gone and Comp should go with it. Reason #1 P2P. Reason #2 Bungie’s matchmaking algorithms Reason #3 Bungie seems to think that 1 and 2 are acceptable in any game that has pvp.
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Lag, lag, lag
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1 RespuestaAfter playing Curse of Osiris, I can definitely see why they changed it to Trial of the Nine. Osiris is a boring character. I liked him waaay better when Brother Vance just spoke cryptically about him or from the description of the Trials gear and weapons.
