[quote]The feel. The one thing that Destiny has always had going for it is the gunplay. It feels more visceral and solid than any other game in its niche. I keep coming back because of that FEEL. I had such high hopes for Anthem, but I knew deep down it was going to feel just like Warframe and Division. Two games that have everything going for them except the feel. The gunplay in both of them feels terrible compared to Destiny. So, will Anthem take players? Yeah. For a bit. Some players might never come back. But if the gunplay is shit, people will come back. That’s always been the main draw. Like yeah, the loot is cool, the lore is awesome, but how many of you log in thinking “Oh I can’t wait for this loot!” or “Man I wanna read that story!”? Nah. You log in knowing the endgame is hollow and continue to play because the gunplay in Destiny is superior to everything else in it’s genre. For me personally, Anthem could be better in every way except the feel of the gunplay, and I would never touch it. Destiny might not have a perfect endgame. Or great balance. Or great game systems. But it FEELS goddamned perfect to play. Sure there might not be much of a real reason to shoot that Dreg in the head, but I’ll do it hundreds of times because of that satisfying little pop they make when I hit them between the eyes with a hand cannon. I think that Anthem will fail because it doesn’t know who its audience is. If you want to take Destiny players, you have to make it feel better than Destiny. It’s more of a Diablo style game in third person with guns. It’s focused more on abilities and combos than popping things with fun firearms. It’s halfway in between both of those genres, and therefore will make everyone who plays it uncomfortable. So unless it just knocks it out of the park with either audience, it will fail. And looking at EA’s stock and upcoming projects, it will kill EA. It will be the death of a giant. And I will cheer while I continue to yell at Bungie to take out enhancement cores FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST REMOVE THEM ALREADY LIKE WHAT EVEN GUYS, THEY SERVE NO PURPOSE OTHER THAN TO ARTIFICIALLY EXTEND THE GRIND, I JUST WANT MY GUARDIAN TO LOOK COOL DAMNIT [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to the #Gaming forum where you can discuss games unrelated to Destiny or Bungie's games. See Cozmo's thread here for more information about the #Gaming tag and its uses.  Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote] So what you're saying is you prefer a game because you're addicted to the visual and sound prompts. How shallow. Lol

The games can coexist. I have played destiny constantly since the alpha and can honestly say for me the Anthem demo was an exhilarating & enticing experience. Mastering flying/hovering etc was such a rewarding experience- I felt powerful! That power fantasy has always been ‘managed’ in Destiny so the power levelling keeps you in check at all times - everything scales with you essentially ensuring that even if you are 650 a bunch of thrall could scratch you to bits in a heartbeat whilst you are out on patrol (if you aren’t careful). In Anthem I felt constantly awesome - explosions/shooting/powers felt epic (try out the colossus mortar omg). I could also tune my difficulty to suit (limited to easy/normal/hard in demo with loot drops & enemy health etc scaling). Anthem’s recharge rates for powers were also v fast! They want you using that ultimate/mortar/heat sicking missile. By comparison I’m feeling destiny has to tone that down constantly to balance pvp. Therein lies the crux of the matter for me. To enjoy Anthem you have to like it’s third person perspective (except when sniping) and it’s pve focus. To me the balance between pve & pvp in Destiny has always hampered that feeling of power - bungie have to micro manage that new meta constantly. I have never cared much for pvp personally and I enjoy third person as much as first. So for me and I imagine many others Anthem represents a great opportunity to have fun. Last night me and some friends did the stronghold on hard and it was one of the most instantly engaging & fun experiences I have had in a long time. Straightforward mechanics with the javelin classes complimenting one another leading to those ‘stand back lads I will toast these bugs with my flamethrower’ moments. Awesome. I appreciate there are many Destiny players who simply won’t touch Anthem because it’s not first person. There are also many Destiny players who are primarily pvp focussed - & props to you if that’s your comfort zone/thing. At the end of the day I think a little more competition can only be a good thing for destiny 2/3 as it will force bungie to innovate. I love Destiny & I also love Anthem. Whatever you choose to play let it be your decision & don’t let the insecure types who fear a mass exodus sway you - have fun!

Disagree. 1. You will never get a third-person game to feel like a first-person game. Never going to happen. They are different experiences. 2. Anthem knows exactly who their audience is. Which is why they are releasing without any pvp. Like Warframe, Anthem is an unapologetic loot-based RPG. And is targeting players like myself. Dedicated RPG gamers with no allegiance to FPS. Destiny is the game that has fought what it was, and has never had a clear sense of who it’s player bases has been. If your looking for a FPS, Anthem has nothing to offer you. If you want pvp? Same. But this game—-once it gets its technical issues ironed out—-is positioning itself to put the Fear of God unto both Warframe and Destiny. Because it’s a deeper game than Destiny, and a more accessible game than Warframe.

I feel like it’s too early to say. For me at least. I think it’s going to be pretty balanced in liking half of one game better than half of the other, making neither significantly “better.” I think it’ll end up being like this: [u]Destiny[/u] - first person is better - story and universe is better - unique gear is better(not the gear itself is necessarily better but that it is unique and has lore) [u]Anthem[/u] - gameplay model is better - being able to fly is better - larger and more open public area is better - no PvP is better - no convoluted, mechanic heavy activities is better - everything has matchmaking is better All that being said, while I may like the Destiny story and universe better, I have a feeling that Anthem will deliver it better considering how it’s set up. Time will tell I guess.

I don't really understand anthems thought process, it wants destiny players instead of cultivating it's own loyal community. It really isn't a healthy mindset when a game deliberately goes after another games playerbase, it might snatch up a couple hundred but at the end of the day that playerbase will return to the original game. I don't want Anthem to fail, it looks cool and this is BioWare's last chance or they'll get swallowed up by EA. But they really need to innovate and stand out more, I'm watching gameplay and all I can think of is "oh that's the spider tank from Destiny" or "oh that basically Warframe but slower"

After playing Anthem I gotta say. I can't really compare it with Destiny. They both play/feel different. In my opinion the only thing they have in common is the fact that they're both looter-shooters. I'll personally be playing and enjoying both. Also Interceptor master race.

Lmao! In the demo alone, I've gotten more loot, different too, incredible customization, my Ranger looks like The Punisher got ahold of Ironman's armor. Destiny is pretty and smooth running, but is as shallow as a puddle. Like really nice wrapping paper on a box of dog turds.

Sure the guns feel good in Destiny, but so what? You can only go so far with just shooting stuff and nothing else. It gets dull real fast. [quote]I think that Anthem will fail because it doesn’t know who its audience is.[/quote] LOL. Destiny 2 at launch didn't know who it's audience was either. It survived and improved. So, that in itself, won't keep Anthem from success.

... Yeah, third person imo, is absolute shit, it handles like hell aiming is more difficult, and first person is just more, immersive I guess, it being an EA product is already a turn off, the guns are laughable (in power) and it just seems like an iron man wannabe, Lookie here! You can shoot lots of abilities all over the place while using a mediocre primary weapon! And Microtransactions already in the game piss me off, the suits do look stellar and the abilities are cool as hell, but I just f@cking hate 3rd person, and no PvP irks me a bit too... [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]

I was just saying the other day that people are hyping up Anthem for everything it does besides gameplay, but two points I disagree with: 1. Regardless of what the forums say, Anthem isn't trying to take Destiny's fanbase. Bioware already has a huge fanbase, & they've never (to my knowledge) tried to compare their game to Destiny. Anthem isn't even really in the same genre as Destiny, but people saw guns & loot in the demo & started calling it the next destiny killer because they're stupid. 2. EA publishes Madden & Fifa, so they won't fail even if Anthem does.

No game is ever going to beat Destiny’s gun play in my opinion. But good gun play alone isn’t enough to keep people playing. I think a lot of people will be drawn to Anthem.

the gun play feels different because you are comparing chalk with cheese. D2 will still keep the loyal players, hell i will still play it to help clan mates out that still enjoy this mediocre mess. as for Anthem, - the game is beautiful / looks beautiful - plays Alright, game is easy to figure out, the Demo was at least. One cant give proper judgment on something that you have minimal exposure to. lets talk in a couple of months - to me? Destiny and Anthem can co exist in my collection, I would give the one that provides me with the better player experience, more time above the other. Destiny 2 has become the old family Dog at the moment. Blind, Deaf, and has no more tricks, that no one wants to put down because little Timmy isn't old enough to understand the burden of loss. Bungie should let it die with Season of the Redacted - and Deliver a Fresh / New / Improved / Cliché version of whatever content they have promised through years and layers of lies and greed. in short - build your playerbase / get your hardcore community back, make the game you want without having to grow in the shadow of Activision. or you can start by Making Mayhem permanent. ;)

Yeah, Bungie has the very best gun play and that's what I enjoy the most. That said, Anthem is fun but it's like comparing apples and bananers. Did love flying and those alien bunnies though <3