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Editado por xlx Reign xlx:
1/15/2019 6:02:06 PM
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I am 100% against this, just another "gimme" post with players begging for handouts. Go play the game instead of crying on the forums for handouts
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I'm not going to explain to you what is wrong with the infusion system because you sound a little too stupid to understand when someone is whining for a handout vs trying to improve game enjoyment and improve playability actually. I'm sure others will try but I sense you still won't get it. Enjoy.
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No, you whiners font get it. By lessening or removing the core system you take part of the grind away. What fun is it for people like you to just be like "I want this armor maxed out, this weapon maxed out, this and that, blag, blah blah. And now I'll go slay away in crucible or in a strike with my newly masterworked armor and weapons against an element type my armor is masterworked against and weapons have masterworks on them maxed out to help me even more, so nothing is really challenging. Oh and if I dont like my armor, I'll just masterwork something else teehee" like wtf? Why? What fun would that be? Ik some of you cry babies dont like to put effort into this game and want HANDOUTS LIKE MASTERWORKING FOR NEAR NOTHING, but SOME of us like the gratification of the work put in to get it all, hunt it all down! You want it easy, go at something else where you can just pay to have what you want instead of EARNING IT! Get off your can, get off this forum, put the burger down, stop crying and go grind ya babies!
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Yah like I said, you won't get it. Poor guy.
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Yeah, you're right, I dont get why you people are lazy. I grind my balls off on a game where people like you are probably snacking on greasy burgers and potato chips begging for handouts and freebies because you cant handle the grind. You're probably the same type that thinks they're good at crucible spraying telesto or paid for carries in trials too. Probably the reason you hide your profile because you aren't max light, and are too lazy to put in the grind, your rather sit behind a keyboard or phone screen and troll posts thinking he knows the best way to go about the game. "You get a handout, and you get a handout, and you get a handout! Everyone gets a freebie!" News flash, if you think that taking away the cores system is better, then you're doing it wrong. Do everyone here a favor, next time you want to suggest something, dont, not until you've experienced each side of the debate. Now go play.
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You really should take your own advise.
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And maybe you should take notes... stop worrying about trying to get the game changed for your personal liking, and go play. Maybe if you actually made an effort on the game, you wouldn't be on here whining, crying, and begging for something easier. ✌
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It's an economy that could use some adjustments if you can't see that there is really no talking with you. I respect your decision to be belligerent.
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I dont think it needs adjustment. They've already messed with it once. You should probably learn to play by the economy rules, find efficiency in farming for material and whatnot needed for it all, instead of crying for a better economy. I dont think you understand the idea of a fully masterworked weapon or piece of armor and what it is actually worth, because in my opinion, they all are worth every last core. I hope they dont change any of it, then you all can actually feel the gratitude of the work put into your weapons and armor.
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You never played the first game, I take it. Or freedom of choice just isn't your thing.
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I played alot of d1. And as for freedom of choice, no one tells you what you have to I fuse and what you dont, no one tells you what you have to run or not, y ou u choose that. Bungie isnt forcing you to infuse specific gear? Apparently you guys are a bit scared of effort? Because ik the people I've had this debate with, are not understanding what I'm saying, yet expect me to be the only one to understand what they say... The more I see people crying about stuff like this, the more i feel destinys entire sandbox going down the drain because of pure laziness in players..
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All your excuses are "laziness", while everyone bring up specific reasons why it's a horrible system. Why can't I infuse when I want? It's not like it increases the level beyond the infusion-fuel gear. Me spamming infusion does not mean I'm skyrocketing in level over someone who never does. It just means I can use my favorite gun more often instead of just in places that the light level allows it. If I can't infuse it, I'm forced to use the higher gear for high level stuff, regardless of if I dislike it or not. Take the Cut and Run for example. I hate that weapon, but I can't infuse it if I don't have the cores because I didn't get lucky enough in my dismantle of random-as-heII drops, so now I'm stuck using it instead of the hand cannon I'd rather use far more often. Do you not remember why it was introduced in the 1st game or why people consistently enjoy it then instead of now?
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I'm not making excuses, I'm just telling you how it is. Infusing helps your light which helps your damage output, so yes it's going to cost you. Even after reaching 650, infusions will cost and upgrading will cost. Why you ask? Because the perk you're using cores to upgrade helps you while wielding the weapon (reload, range,etc) armor helps with your resistance to certain element burns. Why should that be free to anyone? What point would it be to play the game if it was all free to lazy people? What grind would there be?
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Infusing doesn nothing but keep other weapons at that light. It does not increase the light of the weapon you got, nor will it increase your overall light level because you already have the gear that is that level. Why should you be punished for preferring something? Isn't that the reason random rolls were brought back? So people could grind for their perks and keep them? Why add another grind on top of that if not to just keep people busy to keep their favorite gear? what if I don't care about the perks but love the weapon performance? That's another grind for another weapon that I might not even get, let alone at a light level that makes it actually viable outside of partolling and Crucible. Cores were fine as they were, because they were rare, but actually were worth the time once you got enough. Now they're inconvenient and annoying due to their lack of appearence due to the RNG of BOUNTIES of all things, and wanting to save your legendary shards for either infusion when you do get the shards, or for collections getting something you may want again. Just because you think that it'll remove the grind just because 1 single material cost is removed doesn't mean it's guaranteed to happen. You'd still need thousands of glimmer, and at least 25 shards and planetary materials, which could be used up quickly, but could be grinded for just by playing the game as you normally would, still requiring time and effort, much far less of a headache because you didn't luck out on a dismantle.
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I read the first sentence and already feel you dont understand the game. Now listen close because this may be new to you but, if you infuse a higher light level weapon/armor into a lower weapon/armor the light in the lower weapon/armor will then be RAISED to the higher of the infused. So yes, infusing WILL raise your light level regardless. You cannot infuse once a weapon/armor is 650 light. If you are UPGRADING a weapon/armor piece, this will ALSO cost cores. Now think about it, you can upgrade the first 3 levels on weapons and first 2 levels on armor (I believe it's those levels) with 0 cores. After that the cores needed will increase. You people need to understand why you need cores to upgrade, you need to understand the effects of upgrading. If you've ever seen a fully masterworked weapon vs a non masterworked weapon of the exact same rolls you can see a pretty substantial boost to stats. This concept holds true to armor as well but in regards to the elemental resistance to certain elemental burns. You people need to look at that and just think of the upgrades, look at what it does for your armor and weaponry, there is a reason they require the cores and why they are rare. You people need to wake up and see not everything is free, you complain about not being to upgrade freely, but let me ask you this, do you think your local mechanic would give your car an upgrade for free and install it at no cost?
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So -blam!-ing what it will change i bet before Anthem is released they will change it
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It’s not asking for a handout, it’s about a broken economy that has the sole purpose of creating artificial playtime. You know as well as the rest of us they were called masterwork cores. Then they treated us like chirldren and renamed them. What an insult. Infusion has nothing to do with these cores. Masterworking does. I’d rather play my way doing what I want than grinding for cores. By the way I have over 160 cores and this system has turned me into a Scrooge. I simply refuse to spend them unless absolutely necessary. There are a lot of weapons I would like to masterwork. But I don’t because of this hyper inflation economy of Bunghole’s. You ask me they intentionally sabotaged this game to get their way and I personally hope that is the case and we see a return to the way things were at the end of D1.
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Editado por Vi: 1/15/2019 7:26:02 PMIf you look at my posts, I never defended handouts and which part of this is asking for handout exactly? Define it? Infusing weapons I want to play with, with a weapon I don't need is not asking for handout. I grinded solo my hunter to 650, with no raids. Yeah
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Handouts, freebies, less work... all synonymous. You say you're grinding for cores? Keep grinding, less complaining. Use the gear you need to until you have what you need to infuse. It's a grinding game, by eliminating cores or cutting back on them, it takes the fundamentals from the game. I like you you played the "I solo que" card, funny thing is that the same app your using to post about cores and how you dont want to grind for gear on a grindy game, has a section where you can look for a fireteam. Solo que is a poor excuse for anything.
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"by eliminating cores or cutting back on them, it takes the fundamentals from the game." Fundamental to the game? WTF, these are soooo fundamental to game play that it took Bungie a year after release to add them?
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The whole purpose of material being needed for upgrading. The fundamental idea of upgrading, sorry I'll stop skipping over details so you can keep up.
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Sooo, we never infused anything the entire first year of the game to bring weapons and armor to a higher light level? I thought I did that the first year, but maybe I'm mistaken.
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Wtf are you talking about? Are you new? Fresh face? What?
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What am I talking about? Your dumb ass said it was fundamental to the game. Then you said it was fundamental to infusing/upgrading. You must be new because we infused just fine the first year of the game. Then bungie decides to change it after a year, just to boost time played, and you say it's fundamental to infusing/upgrading. I don't think you know what fundamental means. Then when you don't know how to defend your comment you call me some random names? Next your going to tell me to get good, right. How about you explain how a core is fundamental to the game a year after release.
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And technically, year 1 we werent really master working anything in the weapon side, and all it was doing for gear was improving durability during super cast. With weapon "masterworking" all you were really doing was giving your gun an extra perk roll, you werent master working any weapons in year one. With this upgrade system you can actually take that "extra roll" and upgrade it or "enhance" it. This is more of an upgrade system than year 1.
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For you to infuse or upgrade ANY armor or weapon past a tier 2 or 3 you need cores. Cores are fundamental to the infusing/upgrading process no matter how you look at it. If you want fully masterworked gear or weapons (unless you get a god rolled weapon), you need cores period. THAT is what I meant by cores being fundamental to this game. And if you really want to twist it, as you progress through the game, you need higher gear to be competitive in some pvp and definitely pve, in which you either run what ya got or infuse. So yes in a sense you could say cores are also somewhat fundamental to the game as a whole, given you want your character to perform and survive the best way possible.
