It brings out the worst behavior of a group of people that are inherently immature and have little else to "show" for their life to begin with. So yeah...toxic.

Literally the only people who defend nu-crucible and Luna’s/not forgotten are CoD babs who have no interest in playing as a team or winning as long as they feel better than an anonymous person who is also sitting at home on a video game in a different part of the world. 4 man teamshot crucible was the best it had been in a while and now it’s just trash

Hopefully Bungie will balance Crucible in D3. Its hopeless in D2 imo. Heres my idea how to balance Crucible: Roll out a list of Crucible default weapons. All of this weapons is not from our vault or our equipped weapons. Its prepared only for Crucible. These weapons can be used in Crucible without having to loot them, so all players can access the same weaponry. Gradually Bungie will add new weapon wether its Legendary or Exotics to the weapons list to add more gameplay experiences This is an example: Lets say Cerberus+1 are in the list of Crucible weapons. All players can use it in Crucible without having to loot it from PvE environment, but when you quit Crucible and didnt have Cerberus in your Collection/Vault then you cant use it for PvE until you get the Cerberus as exotic drop/quest. When everyone has same access of weaponry then its just a matter of skill to win the game. This is balance imo

The only way to affect change is to vote with your lack of login.

Because the high level PvP players convinced the community skill based matchmaking was bad for them. Triplewreck started the anti-sbmm movement in D1 because he didn't like having to play people his own skill. He also led the charge to keep it out of Forsaken. Fun fact. He won almost 11,500 out of 13,545 D1 games with SBMM. That's 79% wins. He also won 1908 and only lost 618 games in D2 Y1 with sbmm enabled. That's 76% wins. Since sbmm has been removed, he was 988 wins and 185 losses through last week. That's 84% wins. His kd through 13545 D1 games? 2.45 His kd in D2? 2.69 and I went back and over a 72 game span he was at 4.42 TrueVanguard put out a tweet the other day that he had two 55 kill games and was thinking of posting the videos. Both he and Triplewreck are over 2300 Master Elo players. His opponents in those 2 games were all bronze, silver and gold. That's why they don't want SBMM. They want their stats and views at your expense. Through 72 games Triplewreck played 3 players his own skill. 90% were bronze, silver or gold. He's playing at his skill in .07% of his games. Meanwhile we have Platinum, Diamond and Master tier opponents in 1 out of every 2.5 games we play. That's why every game is nothing but Luna's and Not Forgotten, and one or two players wiping the floor with everyone. This Iron Banner where skill is enabled, I've played a total of 4 Platinum opponents through 66 games and no Diamond or Master. The player vs player matchups have been the best I've ever seen in Destiny and I've died to a Luna's exactly once. Haven't seen any Not Forgotten. So yeah, I hope Bungie sees your post and I hope more people start complaining about the matchmaking and stop buying the streamer bullshit that no sbmm is somehow good for anyone but the top 10%

Luna's howl + dusk rock blues Not FORGOTTEN + dusk rock blues EVERY GOD DAMN MATCH!

I think the matchmaking systems are completely broken. We need more fair play.

Legit don't know what happened but I was playing iron banner and was getting 2 tapped to the chest by malfeasance against enemies within 10 LL of me.

Only way to make changes is simply stop playing crucible. No feedback just simply stop picking up crucible bounties, stop doing clan bounties and stop playing. I still get 5000 Co for clan with out playing crucible. At the moment that cesspit has the highest daily log ins since the launch of destiny 2. The only way to force bungie hand to do there jobs is simply stop playing and make them do there jobs again.

I’m burnt out after one day. I just need valor resets for redrix claymore and all day I’ve been busting my ass to try to win games, sometimes getting 45 kills and still losing. This match making sucks dick.

too many people equate fun with winning. you want fun? load up a titan with a tractor cannon and go enjoy yourself. i have never laughed so much in my life.