Shoulder charge and dash...no way that be op.

I always see posts like this and then I play the class in question to see if I succumb to the issue in question. So I did what anyone would do. I popped onto my Titan and I jumped around. I used my shoulder dodge, in tandem with the high speed forwards momentum. I then started getting crazy and tried to see if I could dash behind cover from mid-air at awkward angles. Then I saw height, distance, and mobility. I was able to preform these feats on the ground and in the air while also being able to use my dodge ability to kill people with and in tandem with exotics could get my dodge back instantly. After all of this I went onto my Warlock and tried to shoulder dodge behind cover, tried to speed around corners I am next to or that I am in-front of. Had a lot harder of a time than on my Titan. It was really tough to round corners in an instant from midair or on the ground. The shoulder dodge was only on one subclass tree and it slowed my momentum at times. Very sad. After that I went on my Hunter. I tried moving very fast forward with my vertical jump. It was very unsuccessful. I attempted to use my dodge roll in midair like shoulder dodge and I went nowhere. Very peculiar. I tried even using my dodge roll to one shot someone and get it back instantly but to my surprise I simply rolled into the enemy and they responded to my feather dusting with full choke buckshot to the head. Very spicy indeed. Finally I attempted to use my roll anywhere except near a corner and it was very unsuccessful. I would roll and then I had to wait 20 more seconds to roll again. In the end my conclusion was that shoulder dodge on the Titan is a very effective movement ability (which the entire community agrees based on the rage when they nerfed it). To add further onto my conclusion, adding Twilight Garrison in any capacity will grant Titans not one, not two, but three back to back to back unpredictable movements(Twilight Garrison in the first game had two charges like the hunter dodge roll). This in my honest opinion is very odd due to the fact the community agrees the Hunter class is the most mobile class and I believe it should not be added due to if it is it will further stray the Hunter class from being the mobile class(which in the current state of Titans mobility it is not). You can respectfully disagree with anything I have presented but to me facts are more important than feelings. If the Hunter is not the most mobile class, then they lose their identity just like how Warlocks are the recovery based class, and Titans are the Resilience and Mobility based class. As much as I would love to have it back, it would just shove the Hunters from their "class role". But I do have a task for you oh original poster. What exotic would you give Hunters to ensure they don't lose their class role as most mobile(which currently is the Titans role). Please say Sixth Coyote so I might have a good laugh at the shit exotic that is double dodge. PS I hope the OP responds to this reply with thought out and factual responses. It will be awesome

If they buff Icarus dash to be as good as the old twilight garrison, or they nerf the new twilight garrison to the level of Icarus dash then sure. Seeing as titans already have Shoulder charge for mobility, I don't see why titans would get the aerial evasion when dawnblade is supposed to be the aerial class. Had the same concerns in D1 as well since an in air dodge fit the floaty nature of warlocks a lot more than the Titan class that already has 2 superior movement options

Just play as a hunter... Titans should be clunky thats what they are. Just like warlocks are the supporter class. You can't both be a tank and incredibly mobile at the same time that would just be broken and then there would be no point in having either hunter or titan then they might as well just make both those classes in to 1 class.

Um lion rampants???

Brink back D1 year one blink.

Only if Hunters can have a OHKO melee.

Can’t we just have new things instead of reusing exotics?

Why give it to you now when they can sell it to you in half a year?

"Without giving too much advantage" Yeah right. I'd be fine with it if it had the same base recharge as hunter dodge... 20 seconds.

hell no

It was too op. Even with just 1 burst. So it’ll never come back. PvP community call nerf.

Yeah for warlocks

Went back to D1 recently and started a new setup Titan. Final PVP setup: Twilight Garrison (only 4 second cooldown), Memory of Gheleon artifact (free Knucklehead Radar), built in subclass sprint boost (free Dunemarchers). THAT Titan is a baaaaaddd man.

If you want garrison, don’t get me wrong I want it back to, but just play warlock dawnblade CAUSE THEY TOOK IT AND MADE IT AN ABILITY ALSO ITS ON THE TABLE IN RHE TOWER HANGER. WHEN WALKING TO DEADORBIT, ITS ON THE FRAME TABLE UNDER FUTIRE WAR CULT. I SAW THIS DAY 1 AND IM STILL FURIOUS