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Editado por Spawn:
10/22/2018 11:19:59 PM
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Tether is EXTREMELY underwhelming
I've main a Hunter for a very long time, but now things in Crucible are just getting ridiculous. I hope a dev or SOMEONE who can do something can read this and take what I have to say into consideration.
First off. The Tether for the Hunter, as the topic title says, is EXTREMELY underwhelming. I can vouch for many upon many upon many Hunters who use the Tether when I say this.
Why is it that the Tether is viable when used in anticipation instead of a reaction? <<<
I've clipped so many videos of me shooting my tether and hitting an opponent DIRECTLY, but my opponent still has a last ditch effort into killing me with their super. It never fails. I'll shoot my tether at an incoming *Novawarp(which seriously needs a huge nerf(I'll address that in a bit as well) but I still get hit with the blast. An incoming smash Titan, gets shot by a direct Tether and still can shoulder charge.
^^Novawarp is fast just like the Dawnblade, the teleporting takes VERY little away from it's super energy, the armor during activation is way more durable than another roaming super, and the blast radius is WAY larger than a full scale Sins of the Past and it's cluster radius)
When the description of the Tether says it will instantly shut down a super, it doesn't.
But a Titan's suppression GRENADE (which definitely shouldn't be able to shut down a super) is WAY WAY more effective than a Tether, nobody wants to use the Tether.
^^ Add a timer to the suppression detonation, I say ^^
Now that I've addressed that, this next part is what I'm concerned with:
Hunters have NO way to regenerate health like a Warlock, not do they ever get granted an overshield. We Hunters had >>>>>ONE EXOTIC<<<<<< that granted us health. Finally.
But it got nerfed to the ground...
Now, no one ever uses it, because it's became more useless than the Lucky Pants exotic.
Hunters aren't the fastest. Warlocks are.
Hunters aren't the most durable. Titan's are.
Hunters can't regenerate health faster than a Warlock or Titan.
Golden gun is the ONLY super that isn't granted an armor boost. Yeah, it one shots. ALL SUPERS ONE SHOT(FYI for the haters).
Hammer Titan launches some pretty accurate throws because of an EXTREMELY large hit box + blast radius from the hammer. AND upon a kill is granted the SAME, if not, BETTER than the Wormhusk ever could.
Warlocks have MANY ways to recover health.
... Yet, they couldn't handle a Hunter having health regeneration. So it got nerfed.
In the most recent hotfix, the Stormcaller had an issue where during super activation with their backs against the wall, the Kamehameha blast would glitch.
Good thing you fixed the issue with the Nightstalkers' Tether getting stuck on walls even though my crosshairs are in the complete opposite direction. Oh, wait - that didn't get fixed.
Spectral Blades are pretty cool, but still very underwhelming. When the Spectral Blades have ZERO range to the knife slashing, everyone can very easily out maneuver them.. Out maneuvering a Hunter easily in ANY aspect shouldn't be "easy".
Us Hunters literally have nothing going on for ourselves.
Twirling the new staff drains way too much super energy.
Blade Barrage seams to be the only decent thing. But when Shards of Galanor or ANY other exotic drops for us, come on.
-Warlocks have one-shot grenades with their new tree class.
-Titans have one-shot melee with their shoulder charging
... Hunters can't one shot ANYTHING outside of a super. I figured the new Tempest Strike for the Arcstriders would be a one-shot too seeing how in the description it says "a devastating uppercut".
... Really guys? It's as devastating as a screen door on a submarine. It's just a fancy melee attack. Still takes 2 melees to kill a guardian, guys.
Sigh... Make Hunters great again. I hope people read this and consider what I had to say.
[spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses.
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As a Hunter, this seems dramatic tbh. A lot is true, like tether being a shit super.. but that's PvP. Try not to talk about this game like PvP is the only part of it. Honestly, it isnt even the main draw. Obviously any game with PvP and PvE will have people who only really play PvP, but that isn't our problem as fellow players. But you wanna talk about PvP, so let's do that. When you say Hunters need love, you mention small bits and pieces of subclass skills.. but a subclass's affectiveness is never determined by just how good the super is. Tether has a short delay before the debuff but it isnt meant to be a panic super. If you only use tether to get other people out of their supers, you're wasting time and potential super energy. Get a group kill or some shit.. You complain that you have to anticipate instead of react.. wow. I dont even get why you think that's an actual complaint lmao. That's [i]common sense[/i]. And you complain about Wormhusk? Wormhusk was broken, sorry. We get our dodge charge back insanely fast (especially when compared to rifts and barricades) and can even use that dodge near enemies to instantly recharge our melee skill. That health regen procs basically instantly and is way more readily available than any other type of healing in the game. For Nightstalkers it can even proc invisibility.. and if you dont want instant melee recharge you get an instant reload instead. So you want all that AND free insane health regen? You're nuts. Look at Hunters in PvE. Titans only get PvE love these days for melting point and Titan skating, and Warlocks only get PvE love from their NEW Well of Radiance class. Hunters are amazing in PvE. Maybe not the fastest or whatever else, but we ARE damn near the best. I got Shards of Galanor a week or so ago and haven't used anything else since tbh. The synergy blows away every other subclass except for Hunters using Nightstalker and Orpheus Rigs..
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Tether should be a one hit if you hit somebody with it. Or it should deploy faster. Or both.
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5 RespuestasA pvp centric hunter crying on the forums? Why am I not surprised?
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Maybe its not great in PvP......However, in PvE its still one of the best supers. Every-time we do an end game activity we feel the difference when there is no Void Hunter in the team. On the other hand we can quite happily do all of the end game content at this stage without needing a Titan.
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3 Respuestastitan suppresor isnt more effective cause it needs a solid 3 seconds to go off.. the gaurdian himself is more effective. you make direct hits that titan is predicting where to throw his nade so you walk into it. you are bad, you need to shoot the tether infront of the gaurdian not at him. also, its a pve support class why are you using it in pvp?..... i want my titan bubble to kill everybody that shoots at it, richochet... do you see me whining? no, why? ITS A SUPPORT CLASS FOR PVEEEEEEEE. DEAL WITH IT. you damn hunters always crying
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3 Respuestasit's PvE oriented super. Why do so many people have a hard time accepting that?
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1 RespuestaEditado por GodRealmRAIGA: 10/22/2018 6:37:38 PMMy dude, I was with you until you said spectral blades are pretty cool lol. The concept is cool but the execution, my god the execution is terrible. They took so many steps to not make this subclass op that they ended up creating a super with so much issues that makes it disadvantaged in the current meta, it's basically a watered down blade dancer. Maybe your super hit registration is better than mine but 40-50% of my attacks don't register in super. I would throw 2 melees and only one registers. Also thanks for mentioning Nova warp because jesus christ, nova warp is madness. It lasts for what feels like an hour, its blast radius is insane and every kill a warlock gets in nova warp gives health back O_O. It has gotten to a point where I don't even bother challenging that super unless i have heavy and you can't outrun it because of how fast it is so if he sees you, just say whatever quick prayers you can. Just feels like Bungie is throwing balance out of the window for certain things/ classes and restricting other things to hell. Just creating a boring meta of everybody using the same OP things.
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Editado por BarrelRider: 10/22/2018 6:43:11 PMSubClass was ruined by crying titans and warlocks early on in d2.
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They need to make tether a OHK on direct hit like it was in D1. It was so much fun. It wasn't OP because you could only kill 3 people tops. That's hardly OP compared to other supers these days.
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1 RespuestaDont listen to the people say you suck get good they are the people use nova warp or titans playing in easy mode and suck and are just afraid to lose their crutches in the game
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7 RespuestasI main a nightstalker and I have no issue with shutting down supers. Hunters is all about timing. I run trapper tree and I don't aim for the opposing guardian aim for there path. Boom super shut down. It's Hunter like this one that really need to learn how to use a Hunter or move on to another class or just quit. -Cayos-
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1 RespuestaAlso even if they buff this super, I bet you in PvP still no one will use it due to the skill and timing tether require's of it's Hunter. Like how we begged in D1 for team voice chat but no one uses it.
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1 RespuestaThat's why they gave you the new super for nightstalkers...
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When Warlocks are faster than hunters it's a sad day.
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Yeah titan slams, blade barrage, no a warp all pop the tether before it even activates killing you and your tether while still keeping their super
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If you think hunters have nothing going for them, you’re just wrong. Quit trying to make something good even better. [spoiler]get good[/spoiler]
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2 RespuestasDon't use tether on a super. If you have your super use it first. Don't challenge with tether and get a direct hit. Shoot it at a critical point. A corner, a zone, an area nearby you. Then distance yourself from your tether to a distance where you can attack an enemy trapped. If you use tether like any other super you're setting yourself up for failure. I think Tether just needs more exotics that work with it besides Orpheus Rig.
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I honestly have no problem with it in PvP because I use it like it supposed to be used; as a trap. You don’t panic pop to shut down a super. You can be super aggressive with the super, you’ll just get fragged every single time. Like for instance the new void super hunters have. It is by all means a stalker class. Planning out your next move with your neutral game
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Dredgen VonDon't save her - antiguos
Adapt Use it to your advantage not as a one hit ko super. Shoot near them and get them in close space areas. Throw grenade and smoke bomb. Shoot and youre good. The nightstalker subclass isn’t for everybody. Play with gunslinger it’s the most beginner friend one. Second being arc strider -
Nova warp is the baseline where stuff needs to be. And Nova warp has the same health as other average supers at 55% resist. Stormtrance actually has more to the point you cannot 1hk it. The issue with Nova warp being so hard to kill is also that they nerfed damage to supers with matching elements or any element. But what really makes Nova warp seem to never die is it's I frames when teleporting.
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5 RespuestasYou’re just bad at destiny get good kiddo there’s a reason why every 4 stack runs hunters and every noobie play hunters they are easy mode. So just stop and accept you’re trash at the game, stop asking for buffs when bungie probably has statistics showing hunters are the most dominant class clown.
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I hope Someone at bungie reads this. My tethers have been getting stuck on walls behind me since D1, but no fix, and now warlock sonic beam has the problem for one month? Better fix it, which is fine, but fix these other problems as well please bungie, hunter abilities need to be in par with the Titan and warlock ones.
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As a PvE main, I have to say that I first I was going to dismiss this post. Then I realized that lately I actually get annoyed when people use it. It removes other more powerful debuffs. Other than crowd control its useless!
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[quote] It's as devastating as a screen door on a submarine[/quote] Had to upvote for that line.
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I agree. I took a look at my lifetime crucible kills, and HALF of them are hunters. I kid you not
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I agree with you on every one of these point, and golden gun if using the six shooter tree needs two shots to kill any mobile super and bottom tree requires a precision hit to kill a super if I remember correctly.
