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Editado por Popwatts:
10/7/2018 4:51:33 PM
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Problem is, you play Gambit like crap!
That's right - all of you complaining about nerfing the invader.
You don't stop and look for the invader!
You don't stop collecting motes!
You don't protect the mote holder!
You don't run away when chased!
You don't team up against the invader!
You run to the bank when invaded right after a blocker spawns!
You don't kill envoys first! (Thanks for that one!)
Seriously - all this pissing and moaning about a 30 second invasion. Ofcourse the invader is powerful enough to change the way a game is going - otherwise what is the point?
Start teaming up against the invader and this wouldn't be a problem! I've gotten my ass handed to me lately when invading because people are learning to play better. The invader isn't all powerful - but you do need to STOP PLAYING PVE AND START PLAYING PVP WHEN INVADED!
Do that and things will work out for you!
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1 RespuestaThe invader doesn't need wall hacks just saying.
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2 RespuestasThis is so true on every level it isn't even funny. The second the invader spawns in I go into a defensive mode and find a defensive posture to kill the invader. Because of this the invader isn't too big of an issue.
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1 RespuestaEditado por Alph4 Cent4uri: 10/9/2018 6:44:14 AMInvaders aint the problem. Teammates are the problem. People with 1 braincell are the problem. What pisses me off even more? Every match i play is like a -blam!-ing Jean Michel Jarre concert.
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6 RespuestasMy only mad annoyance is sleeper. Tired of being instantly 1 shot across the map. I'm extremely happy they are nerfing the ammo so they cant wipe a whole team every single time.
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Most of the destiny player base can't think or multitask, what you are telling them is equivalent to sending 5 noob players into the eater of worlds lair and giving them 15 minutes to complete it
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Honestly this game is so easy, it amazes me how ass some people are like you don’t need 15 notes to deposit.
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6 RespuestasTruesay. [i]"But they get wallhacks!"[/i] Yeah? Theres 4 of you and 1 of them lol. Teamwork makes the dream work.
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The envoy one gets me fired up all the time. It's a basic concept...but...
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7 RespuestasEditado por Risky: 10/8/2018 2:52:21 PMwhats annoying is when im hiding with 15 motes and theres a guy beside me with 0. like wtf are you doing. you have nothing to lose. get out there and run defense.
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2 RespuestasEditado por TheArtist: 10/8/2018 6:35:58 PMAdditions: You don't equip a high burst damage special weapon. (Do NOT equip dual primaries. EVER). You don't pay attention to what the other team is doing with mote collection...and therefore get caught flat-footed when an Invasion comes. You don't pay attention to where you are in the match to tell you when to bank motes. So you just try to collect 15 motes all the time....and proceed to continually die with lots of them on you. You don't make use of cover. You don't force Invaders to have to push you and come through chokepoints if you fail to actively hunt him down. You don't use a high brurst damage special weapon....or a super if there's a "Block Party"....to clear the Platform of blockers quickly and reduce the chance of getting caught with lots of motes with an invasion. You just dont' clear the -blam!-ING platform. In short. You suck....and Sleeper isn't your problem. :-/
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Yeah my first time playing I complained, now I don’t because I realized I was doing everything wrong.
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How to deal with invaders while carrying a lot of motes in an easy step by step guide [spoiler] 1. Fall back to the spawn, forces them to come straight to you 2. Get behind something so they can't get a line of sight on you (Optional step equip lord of wolves) 3. As soon as you see them on your motion tracker move and open fire, the trick is to avoid their shotgun 4. Slow clap on their corpse [/spoiler] What to do when you have few (less than five) or no motes [spoiler]actively hunt the invader. Period. Smart invaders show up when you've got a lot of unbanked motes, if you die and drop a couple it's better than if your teammate carrying a lot dies.[/spoiler] General advice [spoiler]group up, and for the love of all things DONT SPLIT UP FROM THE -BLAM!-ING GROUP, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PRIMEVAL IS ALMOST DEAD OR YOU HAVE A LOT OF MOTES. "Yeah, well I can kill the invader." Are you really willing to bet the match on that? A single death at the right moment can change the outcome of the match. [/spoiler]
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4 RespuestasThat requires thinking. Generally that's not a strength of the Destiny player base.
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5 RespuestasEditado por Ubiquitous Pixel: 10/8/2018 6:15:08 PMProblem is, usually your own team is your biggest enemy. I once had 14 motes and killed a single weak enemy, only to be shoulder charged by my teammate in frantically getting that single mote when he only had around 4 motes. I was pushed off the edge and lost said 14motes. I don’t think he did it purposely, just was trying to get to the mote I created before me. Didn’t even revive me haha I find myself so frustrated more often than not due to my team. If you wanna see how greedy and how much of assholes people are...play gambit.
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1 RespuestaIm the one who protects in my clan. Dont collect motes i just kill enemys so they can collect. The one thing i will say is your first comment is wrong. Ive been killed before the invader message even comes close to finishing. "Invade" bam sleeper shot. That is definately broken.
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I immediately stop and look for the invader when invaded. Only change I’d make, is make the invader have their name/Level show thru walls like the invadED do AFTER their overshield is popped.
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2 RespuestasI for one find Gambit really fun. Me and my buddy are generally good at it overall but the only main issue that I do have with it is the Sleeper Simulant in this mode pretty much. It kinda sucks invading into a team or a full clan in said team and just get one shotted from multiple angles and or multiple Sleepers at once. Or getting one shotted across the map from an Invading Sleeper user. For me that’s the only thing ruining the game mode and perhaps a better matchmaking system would be nice too for it but yeah.
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Anyone see the inva- *BEAM* There he is.
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1 RespuestaWait so are you telling us what not to do or are you staying what we already do (or don’t)
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I don’t own forsaken so I can’t even access gambit (and no I didn’t go in during the free gambit weekends) So ha jokes on you I’m a loser
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16 RespuestasThat’s a nice list you made, but I’ve been killed by a sleeper before Mr. Gambit man can even finish his sentence about an invader being on the field. I can’t wait for the Sleeper to get nerfed.
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1 RespuestaMy biggest issue is the invader comes and instantly sleepers my ass across the map without giving me a chance to even find him before the laser shreds me apart. I don’t have an issue with invaders or gambit whatsoever, gambit is actually really easy and fun, sleeper simulant is whats making me hate the mode and its not even about skill but terrible design to allow one weapon to dominate thus long
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Had two blues today they never seemed to check when the enemy had portal or even bothered looking for the invader in one game between the pair of them they lost an entire rounds worth of motes.
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People make these mistakes: Banking first. (Banking first will cause the enemy team to kill your blocker and deposit their motes right after killing it.) Invading without Supers, Heavy Ammo, or some other long-range option. Killing enemies while holding 15 motes. Trying to grab 10 motes when we only need 2 to fill the bank. Hoarding the Heavy Ammo to use in your 84th Edge Transit instead of letting your teammates with Sleeper, Whisper, DARCI, or Two-Tailed Fox get it. Leaving the match early instead of accepting the defeat.
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4 RespuestasDon’t play a lot of gambit but the more I do it seems Bungie adjusts things in real-time to make the matches go 1 and 1 so there is a 3rd round. I’ve been in matches the 1st round was an easy win and the next round we barely lose or we get destroyed first round and somehow manage to win the next round. Seems to happen almost every time. I hate pvp but this seemed tolerable because I just never invade but tired of almost always going 3 rounds. That just tells me they added mechanics in place to drag out the matches and keep people returning because the match was sooo close. Is this just me or have you guys also noticed this?
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I don't stop and look for them because sleeper and I'm dead.
