Wait, seriously? I’ve been hesitant on buying forsaken, u mean tell me you cannot unlock your third sub class unless you complete the raid?

I don't get why bungie is so insistent on forcing everyone to play every part of their -blam!-ing game. Not everyone wants to raid, not everyone wants to PvP and not everyone wants to play gambit to get their stuff done but we are forced to. Like a sucker, I keep coming back and playing but when other games come out over the next six months or so, I'm just using D2 as a time filler until then. RDR2, fallout76, anthem, division2 all worthy replacements in my book.

They're bordering on bait and switch with this. They advertised new subclasses on the box, but obtaining them is past the capacity of the average gamer. (Anyone commenting on this forum isn't average, we're more invested) The original subclasses were baked into the main scenario content for the most part. I was disappointed I wasn't able to continue leveling all of the new ones through the forsaken main scenario to add some variety. The time commitment it will take for the average player to gear up to raid - even the first boss - will take several weeks if you only play a few hours a week. There were so many good decisions with this expansion. These questionable blunders that don't make sense leads me to believe there's someone over the sandbox team that has too much veto power and is forcing them to implement progression gates that don't jive with the rest of the model. I couldn't imagine playing final fantasy 14 and knowing I couldn't access most of my new class abilities UNTIL I played the raid.

Well...I guess Bungie wants Anthem to succeed because rather than "entice" players to raid. It will push them out to other games. So stupid...

So your telling me if I don't have 5 people to do the raid and clear the first part I can't finish my third new class? What a stupid thing to do Bungie. There better be another way to get it.

Wow! Why are you playing an MMORPG game and expecting things to be handed to you? Ever play Elder Scrolls Online? What about Final Fantasy XIV? Black Desert Online, even? If you don't have the time, work at a pace you can handle. Don't ask them to ruin it for everyone else. That's selfish and quite literally stupid.

Sounds like bungie's raid statistics are down. That will not do for their report to Activision. This is just another cheap shitty way to get players to do what they want. Soooo glad I didn't waste my money. Anthem is looking better and better Bungie. Especially compared to your shiny lump of shit.

Stop complaining or Stop playing the game then. The reason destiny 2 was so -blam!-ing crap was because they tried to cater to casual players.

I been wanting my third super for like a week already. I want it really really badly. When I found out you can finally get I was so excited. Then I found out you have to clear the first encounter of the raid to get it. My first thought was can I solo it then come to find out you can't. Then I was like ok what is the least amount of players you can have. Nope you need 6 people. Come on Bungie why you gotta do that to us. I'm telling you right now I am not no casual. I am a D1 veteren. I played every raid in D1 20plus times each. Back then finding a raid group was super easy. I had a specific raid group for each raid. Now a days every one is to -blam!-ing picky. Like you need a mic, you need to be a warlock, you need to be max light level, you need this specific exotic, you need to use this specific super or you get no god dam invite Like holy shit just invite me to the -blam!-ing raid and stop being a picky little bitch. Oh then if you tell them you never did the raid but you watched youtube videos on it so you kind of know how to do it. Boom you get instantly kicked. Is it really that hard to teach someone that basically already pretty much knows how to do it. You raiders need to stop being picky little pussies. Then there is no matchmaking. Trying to actually find a raid group is basically impossible. Raiding used to be the best thing about Destiny. I loved to so raids back in D1. Now raiding is just a pain in the -blam!-ing ass. I honestly hate raiding now. I am just ranting at this point because I'm triggered. Anyway if you took the time to read this thank you for reading my opinion. I would like to hear your opinion as well? Do you feel the same way as me?

Wow this community is so toxic lol, if you have an opinion, some -blam!- will berate you on why your opinion is wrong. I think the game is good but its the community that make it even more shit.

Glad I saved my $70 USD towards DMC5 and KH3 I'll grind weapons, armor, vanity items, and emblems all day long. But key components of the game? When majority of the playerbase doesn't touch raids with a 20 foot pole? That's where I draw the line. That's just not good business practice. I feel bad for people who don't raid. Then again, the Destiny community will never learn it's lesson I'm afraid. Throwing money at their screens time and time again to be screwed over, disappointed, and let down. Maybe one day you'll all learn. Y1 D2 should have been the wake up call.

It’s literally from the first encounter????

the blind well tier 2 gives you chance at your second tier 3 gives you a chance at the third

How dare bungie make me play the game I paid money for. 31 years on this planet and I've never been more outraged.