[b]decrase[/b] body shot damage make it like 190 something like that but [b]increase[/b] precision damage. You get a PvP “nerf” as it would require a bit more skills to use and a PvE buff to keep the weapon relevant.

Mr. Bungie, Do not touch the Sleeper. It's fine as it is in PvE. Do not scrap another weapon when it's the game mode that needs tuning. PvP whiners, [i]deal with it[/i].

I agree it's a problem in gambit, Getting cross- mapped by someone you can't see through walls and hills is BS.

I have to say I am not a fan of the mode as a whole. Basically 3 guys kill adds and bank motes as quickly as possible 5 more blockers are more obnoxious than the large/medium. 1 guy just gathers heavy and invades. Then the prime evil is just a test at who can melt a boss faster and most players don’t know optimal dps. Truthfully the invaders don’t really matter or do anything if you cash you notes in and then once you build your slayer stack up to like 3x you can melt the boss before they can invade and heal it

I feel you bro up vote from me and also I don't think he's just trying to say nerf it bungo maybe we can find a start that might be more effective or descriptive than "hide"

Why not invade and take out the whole team w your sleeper? Since it’s so easy-Peasy.

You keep an eye on the number of Motes deposited by the other team. At 25 and 50 they can send an invader. At those milestones, reposition to one of their spawn locations. Simple. [spoiler]STOP CRYING FOR “something needs to be done about...” aka NERF[/spoiler]

It is definitely not overpowered. If you don’t know how to counter it, then that’s on you. It isn’t Bungie’s responsibility to “look at” something just because you are getting killed by it.

You know man no matter what there’s always a gun that will be complained about . Last two months - graviton lance , vigilance wing . No matter what you get killed by a specific gun and suddenly your cry it’s op. Go back in time - Vex mythoclast nerfed to shit Thorn nerfed to shit Hawkmoon and all handcanons nerfed to shit . Last word nerfed to shit Then d2 comes out and it’s a slog Weapons suck nothing really stands out except mida . Then it’s the colony . And on and on the cycle of you people crying. And all it does is ruin the game . This weekend didn’t die from a sleeper once . Didn’t use a sleeper one and nobody on the team used a sleeper. We finally have d2 in a good spot . Just because you get killed by a gun doesn’t mean it’s the gun being op . So mabey just mabey instead of crying for nerf - learn how to avoid and counter . guess what? It’s a FPS and your gonna die from some fun whether it’s sleeper or not. we’re 1 week in and I can tell you there are other just as viable weapons that if sleeper gets nerfed then they will take its place to The same result and the cycle will continue. Moral to the story keep it up if you want to ruin d2 . FYI there’s some awesome counters to sleeper that you could be figuring out instead of coming here to bitch and moan . Don’t be part of the stupid cycle . Figure out your counter. Which we have many. I’m not gonna carry on here anymore let alone respond to any of your comments because your opinion isn’t going to change my view . Good night and think about it. Just because you got killed by sleeper trying to get your ace of spades or the chaperone quest done is it on the gun or on you. Good night and muted .

Do you know what cover is?

There’s a difference between overpowered and overused. Sleeper just gets the job done with minimal effort required.