I was a lore addict back in D1 and i had so many conspiracies about nokris,osiris and xol and bungie just ruined 3 characters in 1 year... i know im kinda late when im saying it but I actually wanna get raid with worm gods and not a 4 mission story mod when u defeat one of the most powerful creatures ever lived in less than 2 hours... I hope they wont ruin toland and eris to :(
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You do know..that Nokris is a necromancer, right? Who’s to say he and Xol won’t be back? And we’ve known next to nothing about Osiris’s true character, so we never really had anything to fall back on there.
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Editado por gizzamaluke: 7/10/2018 9:50:34 PM[quote]bungie just ruined 3 characters in 1 year...[/quote] Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Bungie is the author of this story.
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[quote]not a 4 mission story mod when u defeat one of the most powerful creatures ever lived in less than 2 hours[/quote] One of the primary reasons the dev has no clue on what fans and even their LOREMASTERs like Byf and Myelin Games want ... while other devs actually pay heed to their fan following .. this one seems to do just whatever they like when it comes to lore. I think the main problem why this happens is because they dont have a steady narrative dev team
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28 RespuestasNokris was a mystery because he was stricken from Hive history. It never meant he was powerful. Xol, was our introduction into Worm Gods. He was going to be killed anyway by Yul, so us overpowering him doesn't really mean anything. As for Osiris, Sagira said even Osiris doesn't live up to his reputation. Meaning all those stories were folklore to begin with, as told by a fanboy or by the Speaker to shield the city from the truth.
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16 RespuestasIf you thought Xol was actually a threat to us personally, then you really don't know the lore as well as you think you did.
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Editado por Clone148: 7/9/2018 10:25:21 PMAs a Lore fanboy myself, I was a little taken aback by the fact that Xol wormed (heh) his way into the story. All of a sudden Zavala brings up Xol and how we have to stop him and I was just sitting there like ????? It wasn't established that people in the Destiny universe (excluding a few individuals) even knew what the Worm Gods were, let alone that one was in the system. When Nokris came through the portal I just thought "No duh, no way Xol would show up himself, dude's probobly a million star systems away right now" but then he did show up and I was like Yooooo! Only problem was that Bungie couldn't follow through. [spoiler]The whole mission utterly failed at grasping the scale of a Worm God's power. First off, Ana telling you to destroy Rasputin's cooling systems was a good start for the power scale but then you proceed as if that's the next logical step. "Oh, better knock out the stabilizers to the monolithic war computer! Can't see any disasters repercussions to that!" I get that Guardians are reckless but ffs, they said something when we pick up a Nuclear reactor in the Arms Dealer strike. I'd say this is a bit more dangerous than that, yet nothing. Even Zavala, who is known for his caution and by the books attitude said nothing. If he would have added something along the lines of "Ana, have you lost your mind? Taking out those cooling units could be cataclysmic. If the excess energy of Rasputin's network gets out of hand, it could raze the entire surface of Mars" it would have really drove home the fact that you were supposed to be making a God-Killer. And Ana could shoot back "I know it's risky Zavala, but it's the only hope we have for beating Xol" further emphasising Bungie's apparent obsession with the motto of "Ana is always right". Then, rather than giving us a whole bunch of adds to kill (which emphasises more that the Javelin still does exactly the same damage and is in no way "super charged") they should've given us one Javiln and had a Hive drop ship or one of those huge Cabal war rigs come in and we should have utterly eviscerated it and Ana could have said something like "I'm still trying to balance out the damage displacement of the Javelin system. Normally, we have runoff wells to compensate in case of an overload, but... there's just so much power. I'll keep trying, Guardian!" It should have felt like we were hitting Xol with a Nuke, but it felt more like we were throwing porcelain through a car window. Sure it did the job, but it was horrably mundane. Lastly, the boss fight should have hinged on the Javelin as the main damage source. I'm not just talking about characters simply saying "But yuh needs it to wins!", I'm talking you can barley put a scratch on Xol otherwise. The mechanics of the fight should have focused on survival, with not as many adds being summoned in while you jump to different points in the arena, with Xol slowly destroyed all the platforms and walkways as you do damage to him.[/spoiler] Point is; Xol was a little disappointing.
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shaked902 you need to add the hashtag #MeToo for yourself. ;)
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3 RespuestasLore wise we walked into the fight with Xol knowing we already won. By the Sword Logic it's survival of the fittest, we beat Oryx, and Oryx beat Akka. So by beating Oryx we proved to be stronger than both of them, thus we knew we were stronger than a worm god. Que Ghost: I've never seen anything so powerful. Shut up Ghost yes you have.
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Not much of a lore addict if you thought Xol was one of the most powerful creatures ever.
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1 RespuestaWarmind bummed me out the most. Rasputin has been one of the most intriguing “enemy” to me all along. Mysterious, kinda scary, but then all of a sudden hes just here and he’s...our friend...or something. He had a decent intro, but the whole rest of the Warmind story was just pretty rough.
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2 RespuestasLore is lore. it's not a factual record of anything. Greek mythology is lore, not history. example: to my my knowledge, Atheon was killed by 2 Titans, 3 Warlocks & 1 Hunter. that's the way i remember it, & that's the story myself and the other 5 members of our team do. you memory of Atheons death could involve 6 Titans. the facts are still there. 6 Guardians defeated Atheon, but the details are cloudy because of different experiences.
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Maybe you just bought into the hype D 1s lore started. Because this is just reality of who these characters were. What amazes me is that a ghost scannabke hyped up nokris for you
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[i]MANY[/i] not much. MANY [spoiler]Hate to be that guy, but it had to be said [/spoiler]
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Did bungie ruin grammar? [spoiler]nah. That was you. [/spoiler]
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29 RespuestasEditado por Archival Mind: 7/6/2018 8:49:03 PM<Well, one thing I'm definitely happy about is that the Worm Gods are not draconic. So, goodbye Worm God/Ahamkara theorists! I won.>
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So, you're whining over your headcanon being wrong. Sounds like a personal problem.
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3 RespuestasNot to mention how much of a cheese ball they turned Cayde into I’m glad he’s dead
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2 Respuestasplayers: - Kill Tess! Remove Eververse!! bongo: - kill Cayde - check
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Editado por Abyss: 7/7/2018 8:24:01 PMIts not that they ruined characters like Ana Bray or Osiris they just made it so they did not live up to their reputation's, basically saying they were over hyped, it ind of humanized Osiris in a way that was hilarious, its like seeing an old dog new tricks. I expected more out of Xol as well as Nokris but then again the Worm gods are just really big worms and not actual gods, Nokris on the other hand has more wasted potential in my opinion as they could made him outshine his brother and father for that matter, and i don't think it will be the last we see of Nokris either because after all they were attempting to call Salvathun to mars.... and after all she did choose to become different then Oryx, perhaps she will welcome Nokris into her fold where his father rejected and banished him after all we did not kill him in his throne realm..... But if you really want to talk wasted potential look no further than the dearly departed Saint 14
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2 RespuestasTo be fair Nokris was a character that we knew literally nothing about other than their name. You can't ruin a character that had nothing to start with. Nokris was at worst, underutilized. [spoiler]But damn was he underutilized.[/spoiler]
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5 RespuestasThey just told bad stories. I hate Ana Bray, Osiris was wasted. Xol was basically a rip off from metroid. Nokris was boring, oh i got banished because i wanted to be different Cliche.
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2 RespuestasI don’t think they ruined Xol. While I was upset he wasn’t more powerful and he was only a strike boss, the circumstances surrounding him make it clear why he is only a strike boss. I don’t think they ruined Osiris either, they just had very bad storytelling. With Osiris, they could make up for it if they started to introduce actual reasons for his being on mercury and such as while as explaining more about the character and his past since the city has known him. Bad, but can still be fixed. Yep. They ruined Nokris. Such potential and so many options for what he could be. Every lore person would have argued that he couldn’t have been Oryx’s son, and then he was. His past seemed very half assed, how he was erased from the World’s Grave, and the story surrounding him was terrible. How does Ana know who Nokris is if we both encountered the hive on mars around the same time, and how could she have translated what she knew? She says in the strike dialogue that “according to lost Hive scripture/hive apocrypha” WHAT HIVE SCRIPTURE? DID YOU STUMBLE UPON ANOTHER BoS WHEN YOU LANDED? Bad bad bad story.
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Luke smith: ahhh crap we blew all of our money on tess now we have to bay Bill Nighy.
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Editado por Eqitx: 7/7/2018 7:32:41 AMSorry, lore wasn't included on the 2018 d2 business plan, eververse has priority