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7/5/2018 11:23:07 PM
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I would give this to the Cabal, they have managed to stand up against Guardians and other nefarious factions with technology and powers that far surpass anything that the Covenant has to offer, Planet blowing up capabilities, High durability, a Battle Network which will analyse their firepower and their movements, and Psions which can move entire moons.
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Expect the covies are bigger.
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They don’t really stack up though to golden age weaponry and the enemies of Destiny can take a hit from standard weapons the are more powerful than anything Halo has
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thats funny, because the destiny universe isn't that advanced. coviee have anti matter bombs. one can destroy an entire sun. the cabal cant compare. Also human golden age text is laugh able compared to the forerunners. or even the flood. the vex being the only none magical force that we can compare to halo. still to the precursors.
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Editado por Binging-Master!: 7/22/2018 11:14:53 PMThat’s cute, tell me which of them are Universe level? The cabal can destroy suns and tank bombs with the power of a collapsing star, rocket launchers that have the energy to destroy planets, Guardians that are faster than light speed. Halo has nothing And antimatter charges could only destroy space vessels
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[quote]That’s cute, tell me which of them are Universe level? The cabal can destroy suns and tank bombs with the power of a collapsing star, rocket launchers that have the energy to destroy planets, Guardians that are faster than light speed. Halo has nothing you are pull that straight out of your ass. the cabal are no where near universal, they have one weapon that can destroy a sun, while the covies have far more than that. the cabal are barely galactic. you are taking game play into lore, game play is not what lore is. lol guardians are not faster than light, the closest they get is with blink. nothing in the lore states that guardians are faster than light. the forerunners solo both the cabal and fallen with out effort. the covies do up with some effort. the precursors would destroy the vex and hive. And antimatter charges could only destroy space vessels[/quote] anti matter destroys all forms of matter.
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Editado por Binging-Master!: 7/22/2018 11:53:08 PMDominus Ghaul is by Bungie’s statement the strongest enemy the guardians ever faced, and because of his infusion with the Traveler’s power, that is even more true. The Covenant can only glass planets while Cabal destroy planets for just getting in their way. Covenant and even high level Forerunner constructs can go down to standard human weapons while Destiny enemy units can tank weapons that destroy you down to to your elementary particles Destiny Lore is no different from the rest of the Destiny game play, don’t even bring that up again. They can react to speeds such as Oryx who weaker shadow form moved from mars to saturn in only a few seconds, massively faster than light, and even the transversive steps which makes their velocity relative to all known cosmic velocities, such as the accelerated expansion of the universe which is faster than light The only one I can think of that can stand a chance against the minor races are the precursors but don’t know their full capabilities but they stand no chance against the Traveler or the darkness.
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[quote]Dominus Ghaul is by Bungie’s statement the strongest enemy the guardians ever faced, and because of his infusion with the Traveler’s power, that is even more true. thats only because of the power of the traveler and that is not his might. The Covenant can only glass planets while Cabal destroy planets for just getting in their way. the covies can destroy planets, they dont because they are looking for forerunner artifacts. Covenant and even high level Forerunner constructs can go down to standard human weapons while Destiny enemy units can tank weapons that destroy you down to to your elementary particles forerunners have temporal weapons and manipulation. they made solar systems. planets bigger than earth and more. have weapons that can destroy you atoms. etc Destiny Lore is no different from the rest of the Destiny game play, don’t even bring that up again. actualy there is, the comics show guardians killing enemies with one shot. They can react to speeds such as Oryx who weaker shadow form moved from mars to saturn in only a few seconds, massively faster than light, and even the transversive steps which makes their velocity relative to all known cosmic velocities, such as the accelerated expansion of the universe which is faster than light thats a bunch of bull shit right there. ghauls attack wouldn't of happned if that was true. The only one I can think of that can stand a chance against the minor races are the precursors but don’t know their full capabilities but they stand no chance against the Traveler or the darkness.[/quote] the precursors are the creators of the halo universe. they are gods, they can not be killed or beaten.
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That changes nothing, as that is still Ghaul’s level of strength when he has the Traveler’s light The covenant have no shown means of destroying planets, Forerunner weapons are vaporization while destiny weapons are sub atomic, easily superior to Forerunner, Vex can just erase the forerunners from existence. Those guardians are obviously stronger than other guardians. Hey, just because they have the means of speed and reaction doesn’t mean they are going to guarantee victory all the time against a superior force. The precursors max power is from solar system to galaxy level with already placed constructs, which manipulates physics, nothing Destiny hasn’t seen before with the Hive fighting a similar enemy and devastating the galaxy
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[quote]That changes nothing, as that is still Ghaul’s level of strength when he has the Traveler’s light and what did he do with that power? exactly The covenant have no shown means of destroying planets, you haven't read the books then. Forerunner weapons are vaporization while destiny weapons are sub atomic, easily superior to Forerunner, Vex can just erase the forerunners from existence. the vex cant do shit outside the vault of glass. they have no real power and you are making shit up again Those guardians are obviously stronger than other guardians. *face palm* Hey, just because they have the means of speed and reaction doesn’t mean they are going to guarantee victory all the time against a superior force. the flash can do it. The precursors max power is from solar system to galaxy level with already placed constructs, which manipulates physics, nothing Destiny hasn’t seen before with the Hive fighting a similar enemy and devastating the galaxy[/quote] the precursors created galaxies and predate the universe itself. they are older than the universe and have reality warper powers. their constructs exist in a the multiverse. they controlled time, reality the whole nine yard.
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Editado por Binging-Master!: 7/23/2018 1:47:01 AMThat does not mean he is any weaker than Oryx who can create a universe and even push a universe inside out. Unless they actually show or describe to actually destroy planets then they do not scale, even threads that talk about cross over battles in more depth than this do not agree with your statement. That does not mean they can’t reality warp outside the vault of glass as they have done so in another timeline. Again, they are only designated as Solar system to galaxy level, they they can alter the laws of physics doesn’t make them any more powerful than what they have shown, the vex are multiversal with the infinite forest. And as the civilization chart dictates, the precursors were defeated by a race weaker than them.
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[quote]That does not mean he is any weaker than Oryx who can create a universe and even push a universe inside out. he created a pocket universe. Unless they actually show or describe to actually destroy planets then they do not scale, even threads that talk about cross over battles in more depth than this do not agree with your statement. have you read the books? That does not mean they can’t reality warp outside the vault of glass as they have done so in another timeline. Actually they can't, other wise the cabal on mars wouldn't of been a problem. Again, they are only designated as Solar system to galaxy level, they they can alter the laws of physics doesn’t make them any more powerful than what they have shown, the vex are multiversal with the infinite forest. ummm expect they arent designed to be solar system to galaxy level. these things are the reason anything exist in the halo universe. they created galaxies, they are above time and space. they are gods, they do more than just alter the laws of physics. they control them and they predate the universe. a single forest does not make a mountain. the precursors exist on a megaversal level. And as the civilization chart dictates, the precursors were defeated by a race weaker than them.[/quote] the precursors didnt fight back. as it was pointiess to fight creation and they are immortal. living in a higher existence.
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Yet is treated as an actual universe. Take up that argument with people who know where halo verse stands in crossover battles. They can as I said from another time line. Chuck noris and other forms of martial arts and disciplines can harness the power of the universe but is not treated as universe level. Just as the precursors are not near universe level. Now you say they are megaversal, that strongly leads to believe more that they are not even universal at all, The vex forest is infinite layers of infinite universes, infinitely producing.
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[quote]Yet is treated as an actual universe. a pocket universe is not the same size of the universe. it is small. its not even Take up that argument with people who know where halo verse stands in crossover battles. lol They can as I said from another time line. expect they haven't shown any proof of that. Chuck noris and other forms of martial arts and disciplines can harness the power of the universe but is not treated as universe level. Just as the precursors are not near universe level. the precursors are beyond universal and multiversal. they created the universe and predate it. they are everything and nothing. you make a comparsion that does not apply. the precursors created the god dam universe halo exists in. Now you say they are megaversal, that strongly leads to believe more that they are not even universal at all, The vex forest is infinite layers of infinite universes, infinitely producing.[/quote] i said one of their constructs are multiversal. not them, a construct.
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Editado por Binging-Master!: 7/23/2018 4:07:35 AMNo, it is a universe, and is treated as a universe, crossover battles use that as well to show he is universe level and even higher. It is since vanilla campaign Destiny 1. Yet they were defeated by humans time and time again as the flood who by logic are the same level as the precursors, so no, they are not that level Nothing like that shows it is acceptable in crossover battles as they are only labeled as solar system to galaxy, that is all they are known for. They are only described as on a galactic scale for their constructs and neurophysics.
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[quote]No, it is a universe, and is treated as a universe, crossover battles use that as well to show he is universe level and even higher. hahahahahaha, by that logic the forerunners are multiversal as they have created entire dimensions. aka universes. oryx did not create a universe, he has a throne world. which is a pocket reality inside the void It is since vanilla campaign Destiny 1. sure Yet they were defeated by humans time and time again as the flood who by logic are the same level as the precursors, so no, they are not that level if you are talking about the games, then halo only has seen a fraction of the flood. the flood came from beyond the galaxy. humanity havent even faced the full power of the flood which can infect space time. Nothing like that shows it is acceptable in crossover battles as they are only labeled as solar system to galaxy, that is all they are known for. They are only described as on a galactic scale for their constructs and neurophysics.[/quote] wait, you are using a wiki and the worst wiki to do a battle with. also that wiki states they are immortal which is true. the precursors created galaxies for fun.
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Editado por Binging-Master!: 7/23/2018 4:41:28 AMAnd yet the throne world is a universe with it’s own stars, suns and planets, it called explained and accepted as a universe across various internet pages. The forerunners are not that level for obvious reasons, consistency and scaling, as they were defeated before by enemies weaker than them, so that is outlierish. Still does not change the fact they were defeated by an inferior civilization before humanity. No, it is from other forms that shares the same consensus, not bias opinions. And yet Hive can destroy and ravish entire galaxies as well.
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[quote]And yet the throne world is a universe with it’s own stars, suns and planets, it called explained and accepted as a universe across various internet pages. The forerunners are not that level for obvious reasons, consistency and scaling, as they were defeated before by enemies weaker than them, so that is outlierish. you clearly never read the lore. nothing states the throne world is infinite. a throne world is not a universe. its a pocket reality, a realm. which exist in a plane. Still does not change the fact they were defeated by an inferior civilization before humanity. what? forerunners are far better than humanity and the precursors let them win. by that logic a cabal could kill oryx because he killed a hive. No, it is from other forms that shares the same consensus, not bias opinions. And yet Hive can destroy and ravish entire galaxies as well.[/quote] the hive can not
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Editado por Binging-Master!: 7/23/2018 12:12:50 PMI never said infinite, nor is our universe infinite, it is defined how much it contained such as natter & space, though there is no concrete answer, all we know of is what we can observe and is that the universe is expanding continually, as well so good job on your science, it is state universe in lore. I was referring to the flood who are equal to the precursors Yes the hive can by lore
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[quote]I never said infinite, nor is our universe infinite, it is defined how much it contained such as natter & space, though there is no concrete answer, all we know of is what we can observe and is that the universe is expanding continually, as well so good job on your science, it is state universe in lore. its small than our universe. it is a pocket reality. I was referring to the flood who are equal to the precursors The flood are the precursors, the flood humanity faces isn't even the full power. beating a small weakened faction is nothing as the flood as consumed entire galaixes already and can infect spacetime. Yes the hive can by lore[/quote] theres nothing in the hive lore that suggests this, more pulling shit out of your ass.
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Nothing suggests that it is smaller than our universe, it is a universe by lore, get over it. I was referring to the forerunners, and the flood only effected one galaxy, and the forerunners were weakened and yet managed to defeat the flood. In the book of sorrows, they destroyed a galaxy spanning civilization that controls both matter and physics itself.
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[quote]Nothing suggests that it is smaller than our universe, it is a universe by lore, get over it. show me proof I was referring to the forerunners, and the flood only effected one galaxy, and the forerunners were weakened and yet managed to defeat the flood. they killed all life in the galaxy to beat the flood, including themselves. that's not a win and the flood exist beyond the milky way galaxy. In the book of sorrows, they destroyed a galaxy spanning civilization that controls both matter and physics itself.[/quote] nothing in the books of sorrow stated they ruled the galaxy. thats cute controling matter and physics. while the precursors control reality itself. destiny is one of the weakest universes out there, hell a weak race from doctor who could stomp all of destiny.
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Crota Grimoire Card, Ikora describes them as universes. That’s the rule, in a suicide move in any crossover battle, if you take out your enemy, that is by definition a win. Just because they “control” reality doesn’t mean they are Universe level, as their encounters with other races have shown. Destiny is well above multiversal level with proven feats and powers. While Halo is stuck at galaxy level at best. The enemies I am referring to are galactic by domain
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[quote]Crota Grimoire Card, Ikora describes them as universes. i dont see a quote That’s the rule, in a suicide move in any crossover battle, if you take out your enemy, that is by definition a win. they didn't kill the flood, the killed the food source. the flood never died, just moved on to their real forces. Just because they “control” reality doesn’t mean they are Universe level, as their encounters with other races have shown. the precursors are universal. they created every single galaxy in the halo universe. also they are above multiversal Destiny is well above multiversal level with proven feats and powers. destiny doesn't show multiversal feats expect for maybe the infinite forest but thats just simulating realities. not destroying universes at a whim. zeno from dragon ball could solo. While Halo is stuck at galaxy level at best. The enemies I am referring to are galactic by domain[/quote] thats where you are wrong.
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Editado por Binging-Master!: 7/23/2018 2:40:32 PMGo look it up, like I looked up the information for confirmation, and nothing suggests what you claim. And that is a lose for the flood since they purpose is to eat all life, without it they are lose in purpose, Precursors travel to galaxies, seed them with life and even move galaxies, but are not universal level, Precursors go only galaxy level, they are dead to the hive. Talk to the crossover battle experts. Yes Destiny does, and those simulated realities are depicted as no different from real universes as they can be destroyed/terminated. DB has no bearings here, anyway, Destiny solos no problem.
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[quote]Go look it up, like I looked up the information for confirmation, and nothing suggests what you claim. I'll give you proof. if you give me some. And that is a lose for the flood since they purpose is to eat all life, without it they are lose in purpose, Precursors travel to galaxies, seed them with life and even move galaxies, but are not universal level, Precursors go only galaxy level, they are dead to the hive. Talk to the crossover battle experts. one: the precursors predate the universe and created every galaxy in the universe. crossover battle is not a good source for info, the books are. two the precursors are immortal and so can no be truly killed. their bodies yes but not their mind. two: the flood have been eating entite galaxies already, what is one galaxy to millions. "The Flood changes everything. Not just flesh. Space itself is infected. That's the power the Precursors once had... isn't it? They shaped and moved galaxies! They created us! How did we ever manage to defeat them?"— The Ur-Didact to the IsoDidact[23] a qoute from a halo book eat flood we face is just an avatar for them. Yes Destiny does, and those simulated realities are depicted as no different from real universes as they can be destroyed/terminated. no it does not. a simulation is just that a simulation. DB has no bearings here, anyway, Destiny solos no problem.[/quote] destint couldn't solo if it even tired. [u][/u]
