We paid for said product we want a good full game. Not a never dumb down garbage of a game.

Your post is highly toxic. Stop playing this garbage. Then maybe bongie think twice befor making D3 complete utter trash.

[quote]So I see nothing has changed, all the upvoted posts on this forum is still nothing but trashing of the game.[/quote] Maybe if the developers made a sincere attempt at improving it people wouldn't be mad. [quote]And the most active ones replying and making new post all claim they stop playing Destiny2 but if so why are these same people the most active ones on this app???[/quote] Have you considered that the reason they post after ceasing to play the game is because they care about the fate of the game and the direction it's taking? They want to see it improve, not mire its self in failure and mediocrity. [quote]All the relevant voices have all left[/quote] Relevant to what? Your interests and personal views? Maybe. But that doesn't mean they're irrelevant to everyone's views, opinions and ideals. The world is made up of more than just you. [quote]and only thing left is just toxicity.[/quote] As opposed to someone trying to call out anyone who posts anything negative at all? What do you think that makes you? [quote]If some true fans[/quote] What is a "true fan"? Is it someone who wants to see a product or series improve? Someone with genuine passion regarding something they have invested time and effort in to? You seem to be under the impression it's someone who blindly sings praises for something out of sheer obstinate and unrequited loyalty. There is not such thing as a "true fan". If you resort to trying to determine who is and is not a "true" fan of anything, or a "true" member of any kind of organization that doesn't have formal membership then you've already lost. Anything you have to say is a structure built on quicksand. Useless and doomed to sink under its own hilariously misguided weight. [quote]happen to voice their opinion and they all get mob hanged and called out as Bungie fanboys and all other insults.[/quote] "happen to voice their opinion" is often something like this topic; a judgemental user shows up, decries everyone else as hateful, toxic monsters and acts like they've been maligned when the rest of the userbase doesn't agree with them and fall into lock-step. [quote]I still believe Destiny as a game will bounce back and this Bungie app will thrive again[/quote] See? This is an opinion. I don't think many, if anyone, would attack you for. Several other users might agree with you. [quote]but with all this cesspool of negativity inhabiting this forum[/quote] But this, however, is just pointlessly judgemental and every bit as negative and "toxic" as the users you claim to be opposed to. No wonder people push back against it. What you call a "cesspool" and "negativity" is, by and large, people voicing their criticism on how bungie's been acting and reacting to the game's downward spiral. For every absurd topic demanding staff members get fired there are five or more about how the TTK is too long, or that the eververse is fundamentally broken. Criticizing Bungie is not inherently negative. [quote]I’m afraid to return at a weekly basis.[/quote] Then don't, if it's such a chore for you. [quote]I miss how this community use to be[/quote] And I miss being able to actually have fun with Destiny. [quote]informative, helping and encouraging.[/quote] I actually don't remember this at all. In fact, before D2 came out almost every topic I remember seeing had people offering valid suggestions and feedback and would inevitably be shouted down into oblivion because they didn't have a 5.0 K/D or the flawless raid emblem or whatever garbage milestone people were using to demean them. The closest this community has ever come to being any of that was during the Outbreak Prime stuff - and most of that came from Reddit, IIRC, not these forums. [quote]I long for the day when it will thrive again.[/quote] Just because it doesn't contain what you, personally, want it to doesn't mean it isn't active or thriving. Just a little pro-tip for life, really. You are not the only person who matters, who uses this community or is a fan of this game.

Bungie refuses to deal with the trolls....and so they took over.

I love how people say this forum used to be informative and whatnot but when I joined 10 months before you and it was full of people venting shit on the first game. The only thing that's changed between then and now is a 2 has been added after the games title.