D2 is a turd. Fact, not opinion.

In fact it is your opinion, that's all this forum is about opinions. Hence it's a forum not a news paper or news network. It's an opinion page if you will. Game critics and mags have given D2 great praise, just some, very few gamers are critical and negative when reality is D2 is still successful and will continue to be. Same happened in D1 .Anyway good luck and do what you have to do. Cheers.

I bought a new car once. It started running like shit and needed the engine replaced after a month due to burned out pistons from piss poor OEM ECM programming. Did I complain? You're dammed right I did. Did I have the right to? Yup. Was the car company -blam!-ed up for putting this car on the market with an ECM programmed to basically kill the engine in the first few thousand miles? Yup. Should they get a pass because "it was the first month"? [spoiler]hell no they shouldn't[/spoiler] Video games and every other consumer product on the market works the same way. Manufacturers and producers don't get a pass just because their product is new. Consumer feedback is what drives improvement (in quality companies.) Bungie should have named this game Destiny Redux, because that's what it is. At it's core it is Destiny, but all the bells and whistles that made the original so great are just.... gone. [spoiler]The car was a 2016 Chevy Malibu. I highly recommend car buyers steer clear of this car (and brand.) [/spoiler]

Already been said, but one is real life and big money,the other is a disposable virtual game, you buy it,don't like it ,don't Fuken play it,$60 or whatever you paid for the game ain't going to break the bank, : )

Lol. That is a stupid argument. $60 is $60. I am surprised you didn't say "dood just have your mom and dad buy you a different game".

Sorry to hear that but this is a game not a car. Fantasy not real life. Just saying. How did you pay for the car compared to the game.

Agree totally. D1 was the final product, that's it, nothing more. D2 is a totally different game, far more potential and smoother. Just players are nostalgic or they were probably the same lot complaining about D1 all the time. Now that D2 is out they have something else to complain about. This game is still new. Far better than what Vanilla D1 was, in terms of potential and game play. For me PVP is far better, still needs work, PVE a step up. Love the fact that you can't rely on heavies and special weapons as much anymore. As well with supers and grenades. Some and I mean very few gamers are just don't like putting effort into a game. Most games have a primary ,secondary and limited heavy or special. Fact is there are few that are just trolls or gamers who have never played the game that make comments here. Very few gamers here to rushed the game to get to the top power level, to be the first. ,now they are bored. Who's fault is that?. Lol. I am enjoying D2 more than D1 now. PVP more balanced and fair, no more OP shotguns and snipers or OP melees, shoulder charges and sticky grenades. More interesting now that you have to put an effort in PVP to win. Pve is great, have not done the raid but from most of the forums it's great too, limited but it is a new game and bungie just getting players used to the new play style and feeling the old and new players out . Expansions will be way better like they did with TTK. Cheers.

Is that the reason why they lost 700,000 players last week on Destiny tracker reset day.3.3 million to 2.6 million

[quote]Agree totally. D1 was the final product, that's it, nothing more. D2 is a totally different game, far more potential and smoother. Just players are nostalgic or they were probably the same lot complaining about D1 all the time. Now that D2 is out they have something else to complain about. This game is still new. Far better than what Vanilla D1 was, in terms of potential and game play. For me PVP is far better, still needs work, PVE a step up. Love the fact that you can't rely on heavies and special weapons as much anymore. As well with supers and grenades. Some and I mean very few gamers are just don't like putting effort into a game. Most games have a primary ,secondary and limited heavy or special. Fact is there are few that are just trolls or gamers who have never played the game that make comments here. Very few gamers here to rushed the game to get to the top power level, to be the first. ,now they are bored. Who's fault is that?. Lol. I am enjoying D2 more than D1 now. PVP more balanced and fair, no more OP shotguns and snipers or OP melees, shoulder charges and sticky grenades. More interesting now that you have to put an effort in PVP to win. Pve is great, have not done the raid but from most of the forums it's great too, limited but it is a new game and bungie just getting players used to the new play style and feeling the old and new players out . Expansions will be way better like they did with TTK. Cheers.[/quote] Can u just shut the -blam!- up fan fan D2 who can accept mediocrity

Is that you Luke?

Luke Smith: Yep