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Editado por MrShadowWriter:
8/9/2017 8:38:49 PM
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No mic option to enjoying gaming....it actually works for those who choose it so why the hate? (UPDATED)
My original post only exists in the form of the numerous replies i cannot remove. As i cannot remove my post i am just offering a brief synopsis.
The point of my original post was to see if there was any justification in negative reactions to a recruitment post for a clan catering for those who do not use the mic, for whatever reason (mine is mental health related.) I regularly receive private messages slandering my clan ethos and i just find it a real shame that some people have nothing better to do. There are so many clans around that cater for the large majority of gamers who prefer rushing to the end for some quick loot in activities, ranting and raving all the way and spitting feathers when their carelessness and frustration gets them killed. Surely no need to turn on me just because i offer something different for those who actually prefer a more relaxed and peaceful way of enjoying a game, which in my case is Destiny.
Thank you to all of those who offered cosntructive advice, and who understood the contents of my post without the need to be aggressive.
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68 RespuestasEditado por Miofwin: 8/8/2017 9:43:25 PMYes, "off-mic" gaming is really terrible. It ruins the team cohesion and eliminates all sense of team play for the other people playing. I don't care if you get worried or "anxious", bro. No one cares if you're quiet on the mic. Just plug it in and allow people to make call outs. All you need to say is "yes, no" or "okay." It's actually quite selfish to join a team based activity and think "I have anxiety and I won't use my mic." Because you're imposing your personal issue and restrictions on them and denying that team a slot for someone who would have had a mic and used it. In Strikes, it's not a huge deal. In raids it's unacceptable and in PvP it's flat out arrogant. Remember, other people are playing with you and they need good communication to achieve victory. Why do you think stacked teams often win in the Crucible? Good communication. They know who, and what, is where and why. That lets them coordinate. That being said, unless you're throwing the game or wiping on purpose, it doesn't warrant abuse.
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Bump for freedom
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I enjoy games a heck of a lot more when I have people to talk to. Strategies to discuss, knowing if my mates are being over run, sweet finds and tips to share between us.
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It restticts communications, and communication is usually very inportant for endgame stuff.
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It restticts communications, and communication is usually very inportant for endgame stuff.
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If it's kept within the confines of your own clan I couldn't care less. I personally would not play any raid with strangers not using mics. I can't imagine killing Aksis without being able to communicate especially with strangers. If you can do raids with everyone silent than good for you, but you can't force everyone to do that.
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1 RespuestaHonestly, if I'm not in a raid, or playing with my friend, I don't use a mic. Why? Because I just don't want to. A guy invited me to a party while doing the nightfall, and just to be polite, I joined. Of course I didn't said a single word. They weren't saying anything related to the game, so why invite me in the first place? But put it simply, there are activities in this game that just don't require a mic, and if you don't want to use It, it's fine, if you don't feel comfortable talking to strangers online, it's totally fine! If you only talk with your family and friends in real life (Just an example) don't let anyone in this forum tell you that your way of playing is terrible. It's [i]yours[/i].
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4 RespuestasThe best advice I can give you is this: "Random/Anonymous person on the internet says stuff". If you break down every negative message you've received into that simple ethos, you'll rarely feel upset by anything anyone says on the internet again. Of course that's never going to completely take the sting out of unkind words, but it's a good yardstick.
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I go solo, don't need a Mic, don't even people
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3 RespuestasThat's a different story. I really dislike playing with people with no mic. YOu can obviously do activities without communication, but I'm here to get stuff done and communication is necessary to do that quickly. HOWEVER, there's absolutely no reason for people to poop all over your clan and stuff. Just because I or someone else PREFERS to play with mic'd up people doesn't mean there's anything wrong with how you like to play and offering a place for people who like to do the same. Keep doing you. And again, your clan name should be "Drop the mic." I'm starting a rival clan just to use that name if you don't.
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8 RespuestasHey, I'm in the UK, I'm also autistic so using a mic, whilst it's okay, is not my favourite thing. Nor is having to put up with inane swear ridden rants from fellow players. I find headphones oppressive and uncomfortable and when you're noise sensitive there's nothing worse than people screaming in your ear or yelling at you for screwing up when you didn't understand their instructions. Unless it's the strictest of requirements or I play with friends who are mainly quiet and calm...I go without. I'm 51 lol. I don't need the aggravation! Happy gaming!
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I have a personal mini-game I play when I raid. I'll plug my mic in and say hello while we're in orbit and then mute it. I like to see how far we get before there's a reason for me to speak. I've done VoG numerous times without uttering a single word.
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Oh hey,welcome back. 'Sup?
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1 RespuestaYou made a valid point in your post but there are a lot of toxic people on this forum who get pleasure from trampling all over other people But over 100 up-votes is a lot of support, so you can be positive about that aspect
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I see it like this... "Your group, your rules" Easy eh Good Luck Guardian
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Played so many games where we all had mic's and I was the only one talking. Most of the time it's silent unless I get a good group or a little kid who will not shut up.
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2 RespuestasEditado por TSGN Leviathan: 8/9/2017 7:57:07 AMI have encountered my fair share of prejudice in gaming. I have Asbergers Syndrome and I am gay and have been targeted for both. I don't let it bother me though. Words can only hurt me if I let them. Someone else in here also mentioned the use of slang terminologies such using the words gay and autistic (both of which apply to me) in a negative way. Most people who do this don't say it to offend those particular demographics, it's just a cultural thing. Yeah, there are some nasty people out there but I promise you they are in a minority, just seems like they are huge in numbers because they are a very vocal minority.
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Haha.. don't let the trolls get you! Your game, your clan, your decision on how to play.
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"Empower right" Thats why
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2 RespuestasEditado por Elden Lord Archon: 8/9/2017 1:07:07 AMWhen I first got Xbox Live, I had social anxiety as well. I wasn't planning on using my mic with randoms ever. But then someone invited me to an Xbox Live party. Since I was new to online gaming (besides my 3DS), I had no idea what a "party" was, so I checked it out. Before I knew it, I was in a voice chat with random people. All I could do at that point is act natural. The next thing I know, I have some new friends! I have Asperger's Syndrome, so I'm not very adept in the art of social skills. I'm quiet, I stutter, and I talk slow sometimes. But one thing I realized, is that nobody cares. People only care about 2 things: 1) your gameplay, and 2) whether or not you're a jackass. I've encountered a few salty assholes on Xbox Live, and none of them complained about my social awkwardness. They either complained about a dumb mistake I made, or blamed me to cover up their own mistakes. But trust me, I rarely EVER run into douchebags. From my experiences, about 50% of the raid teams I get on LFG end up being successful. But about 97% of them are full of decent, salt-free human beings. [spoiler]Usually in most unsuccessful raid teams, people just leave. They don't get all salty. Some people might, but that's very rare.[/spoiler] Douchebags are actually pretty rare, compared to everyone else. And if you ever run into one, just remember not to take what they say personally. They're just a random asshole on the internet, and they don't know a thing about you. So just bite the bullet, grab that headset, plug that f*cker in, and start talking with randoms!!!!! :D My social anxiety is gone, all because I accidentally joined that party.
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Nobody should tell you how to play this game. If having no mic works for you and your clan then that's great! It's good that you found like minded people to play with. We've had a few people like you join our clan who were nervous about speaking on mic but we've helped them grow in confidence and now they are more comfortable socially in the safe community space we provided for them. I would hope one day you would have overcome your fears and be confident in yourself, not just in destiny but in life as well. Stay strong! 👍
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1 RespuestaYeah reading the title, I was going to say if you're joining Raids and stuff, it is hella frustrating when people don't talk because you need to know what everyone else is doing in some of them. But if you're copping abuse on your recruitment post to try and find like minded people....then yeah, thats just the Bungie Forum Trolls at their best. They're sad little asswipes who have such little regard for themselves they need to belittle others to make their pitiful existence seem like it is worth something. Just ignore them and keep doing what you're doing. I know I hate playing with random people because I find social interaction hard and requires more effort than I'm willing to give; and I just don't like talking a whole lot till I get to know people. TL;DR - Dont worry about the asswipes on here, they're pathetic little turds who have nothing to show in their lives.
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I think they should add Voice Chat in game. You have your team chat and all but I mean be able to press Down on DPad and talk to anyone around you publicly. We already have the option to mute people so that can easily stop people who are obnoxious. But it would be easier to find Groups and no Guide Games needed. We need communication in the Social Spaces.
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You have every right to play without a mic and people have every right to not want to play with others who don't use/have one. Every action has a reaction So to antisocial/shy people feel free to not use your mic just don't expect to be favored over people with mics. It is the same for a lot of things in gaming and I feel people on both side forget that just because you can do something doesn't mean you are free from the consequences good or bad. In a raid talking is important for coordination that makes the whole exp easier and enjoyable as a result.
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There is no reason why a clan can't decide it's mantra and collect gamers who share that mantra. If the mantra is casual gaming with no mikes then cool. If it's hard core mikes necessary then that's also cool. Those that abuse others that they have zero reason to even be interacting with is not acceptable. It's called harassment in law. Such as spitting at or verbally abusing some random person in the street because the may be gay etc. Etc. These people come from an angle of fear. For some reason they fear whatever they think the other person stands for. Somehow it threatens their sense of self. This in turn leads to a show of anger and an irrational hatred. Such targetted abuse i.e not arguing a point such as should we have two primary slots but, actual abuse targetted at an individual or individuals through fear and lack of understanding is never to be tolerated.
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Editado por HAPPYWOLFE: 8/9/2017 7:53:10 AMOff Mic Raiding is terrible I'm most instances, but it is certainly not abuse worthy. Literally everything else in D1 I've done without a mic at times. But Raids, especially with newbs (like me) can be very hard. I remember doing Atheon with an LFG group and one guy didn't speak English but could understand it. The raid went fairly well because 4 of them knew each other and I'd done it twice before. But that is more the exception than the rule. I say that to say this, i okay mostly later at night U.S.A. time and I meet good people from across the pond regularly on Destiny. I'm even Real-Name friends with a couple. But in truth most of them are adult age. Playing with younger people can be problematic due to a lack in maturity and self-control. Certainly not all youths are "squeakers" but anyone that's played online for awhile knows what I'm talking about. Maybe you'd do well to sell out more mature and disciplined players. I'll help you if you're on PS4, actually want some help and can follow basic instructions while confirming you know what we're asking via emote. Psn tag is the same.
