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Editado por Papo Pechuga:
7/28/2017 5:27:17 PM
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Lol so much hate on hunters, especially from titans. It's year 1 all over again. I'm a Hunter main and this is why I bag titans.
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I'm a hunter main, hardly hating on them lots a joke
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He's calling for a buff …
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The only things from hunters that I think that should be buffed are the dodge and the GG damage.
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Arcstrider speed?
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[quote]Arcstrider speed?[/quote] Arcstrider speed is fine when you remember to utilize the unlimited rolls.
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[quote][quote]Arcstrider speed?[/quote] Arcstrider speed is fine when you remember to utilize the unlimited rolls.[/quote] Did I just hear that? Speed =/= mobility
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Editado por H2Osnap: 7/28/2017 8:56:25 PM[quote][quote]Arcstrider speed?Arcstrider speed is fine when you remember to utilize the unlimited rolls.[/quote] Did I just hear that? Speed =/= mobility[/quote] Don't be so simple. Being able to get to your target quickly requires mobility, part of which is speed. Constant rolls with no cool down allows to do that. Either you didn't use arcstrider to it's potential or you're ignoring facts. Pick one. Edit: rephrased something I worded poorly
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[quote]Don't be so simple. Being able to get to your target quickly requires speed. Constant rolls with no cool down allows to do that. Either you didn't use arcstrider to it's potential or you're ignoring facts. Pick one.[/quote] It is simple. If you match against good players they will just run away. Arcstrider is the only roaming super that can be outran, and it has the smallest range.
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Editado por H2Osnap: 7/28/2017 9:03:34 PMThat is laughably untrue. I had absolutely NO problem outrunning FoH, Dawnblade, [b]some [/b] arcstriders, and even a few nova bombs. Golden Guns were possible if you could duck to cover quick enough but you obviously can't just "out run" that. Point being, nearly ANY of the supers can be outran by a competent player with situational awareness. As for matching against "good players", they will more often than not just team-shoot you out of it, not simply "run away". Especially with the emphasis being put on such a playstyle, based on the beta.
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[quote]That is laughably untrue. I had absolutely NO problem outrunning FoH, Dawnblade, [b]some [/b] arcstriders, and even a few nova bombs. Golden Guns were possible if you could duck to cover quick enough but you obviously can't just "out run" that. Point being, nearly ANY of the supers can be outran by a competent player with situational awareness. As for matching against "good players", they will more often than not just team-shoot you out of it, not simply "run away". Especially with the emphasis being put on such a playstyle, based on the beta.[/quote] I honestly don't know what to tell you. Do you truely believe that the shortest ranged super should be the slowest to get to a target?
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I honestly don't know what to tell you. Are you truly incapable of understanding that the speed is there, it's not the subclass's fault if you don't utilize it appropriately? If I had no issues closing the gaps with it on that tiny map when being smart about where to pop it, and I'm garbage, what does that say about you?
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[quote]I honestly don't know what to tell you. Are you truly incapable of understanding that the speed is there, it's not the subclass's fault if you don't utilize it appropriately? If I had no issues closing the gaps with it on that tiny map when being smart about where to pop it, and I'm garbage, what does that say about you?[/quote] It says I matchmake with people who know to run. Arcstrider has [b]mobility[/b], not speed.
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[quote]It says I matchmake with people who know to run.[/quote] This literally has nothing to do with what I asked you. The people you matchmake with have nothing to do with knowing when and where to pop the super, nor does it have anything to do with understanding how to utilize the abilities given to you. [Quote]Arcstrider has [b]mobility[/b], not speed.[/quote] The fact that you still can't grasp that [b]speed[/b] is [u]part of[/u] mobility, combined with the fact that you very obviously don't have a handle on how to take advantage of the class ability for closing the gaps, and/or are trying to get people halfway across the map with a super meant for [b]close quarters[/b], tells me that you're simply not competent enough to use the subclass.
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Editado por Hello Mate: 7/29/2017 1:21:51 AM[quote]This literally has nothing to do with what I asked you. The people you matchmake with have nothing to do with knowing when and where to pop the super, nor does it have anything to do with understanding how to utilize the abilities given to you.[/quote] It does. If I play against people who just run, instead of standing there shooting, I cannot do anything. Infinite dodges don't make you go faster. [quote]The fact that you still can't grasp that [b]speed[/b] is [u]part of[/u] mobility,[/quote] Exactly. [b]There is no speed![/b] combined with the fact that you very obviously don't have a handle on how to take advantage of the class ability for closing the gaps, [/quote] The only way you can close gaps is if your openent stands there! I'm sorry I win enough to not play against idiots! [quote]and/or are trying to get people halfway across the map with a super meant for [b]close quarters[/b], [/quote] Have you considered it takes time to attack once? It's solely up to your openents if they run away. There's no skill in that. [quote]tells me that you're simply not competent enough to use the subclass.[/quote] Again, I'm sorry I don't match against people who walk towards me.
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What I've gathered from that jumbled mess is that you blame your opponents for your own ineptitude with a subclass. Got it. It would have just been easier to say that. Also used less words . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I chased down plenty of people
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[quote]What I've gathered from that jumbled mess is that you blame your opponents for your own ineptitude with a subclass. Got it. It would have just been easier to say that. Also used less words . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/quote] No, I'm blaming your openents for being dumb. I don't recall ever being killed by an arcstrider in the beta. That's a problem. I used striker most of the time since I could get people who started running a only couple meters away. Arcstrider can't do that and has a smaller range.
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[quote][quote]What I've gathered from that jumbled mess is that you blame your opponents for your own ineptitude with a subclass. Got it. It would have just been easier to say that. Also used less words . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/quote] No, I'm blaming your openents for being dumb. I don't recall ever being killed by an arcstrider in the beta. That's a problem. I used striker most of the time since I could get people who started running a only couple meters away. Arcstrider can't do that and has a smaller range.[/quote] Still sounds like you're just blaming everyone else. My opponents had nothing to do with me knowing when and where to activate the super and how to utilize the movement. Just because you were never killed by an arcstrider means nothing. If I say I was killed by exactly 1 FoH throughout the entire beta, does that mean FoH is bad and has poor movement? Of course not. It just means I knew how to avoid it. Just because you were bad with arcstrider doesn't mean it had bad movement. It just means you were bad at utilizing it. Again, the tools were there. It's not the subclasses fault you didn't use them correctly. :)
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What? I didn't know where the speed boost perk was. Stop pretending your so good with arcstrider. Your success is determined by others.
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[quote]What? I didn't know where the speed boost perk was.[/quote] I believe it's located in your brain, although you seem to be having trouble finding that at the present. [Quote]Stop pretending your so good with arcstrider.[/quote] Was that sarcasm/a joke? Because at no point did I claim to be "so good" with arcstrider. I just pointed put that unlike you, I actually understood how to use it. Last time I checked, understanding something didn't equate to pulling skill out of thin air. Perhaps you accidentally replied to the wrong person with that part? Doesn't make sense otherwise... [Quote]Your success is determined by others.[/quote] Oh now you're just being silly. That phrase is only [b]half[/b] true. The other half is entirely on [u]you[/u]. For example, how [u]you[/u] failed use a particular subclass effectively and chose to blame it on anything and everything except yourself.
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I'm so, so sorry I blame everyone for my failure. I don't understand how to make people just stand there. Might just be the SBMM. Bye.
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[quote]I'm so, so sorry I blame everyone for my failure. I don't understand how to make people just stand there. Might just be the SBMM. Bye.[/quote] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Be a child about it, doesn't bother me. 👍
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Also that but not by much
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Editado por RebelJack: 7/28/2017 6:27:43 PMSame here their just mad they got nerfed hard for once no more ohk shoulder charge. No more stick and float away sticks. No more Titan skating. No more juggernaut shotgunning. No more fist of panics behind walls. No more easy mode Titan.
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Blink gone, invisibility gone, jumping jack flash boots gone. Salt....still there
