EVERYTHING has been nerfed to the ground. Guns don't do what they're supposed to, and that's kill,Abilities take years to recharge. And at the end of the day, you're left unable to kill anything. And the primary/special/heavy change is not working as intended, shotguns, GL's and snipers do no damage whatsoever for the ammo type they use up. And the beta itself is non-existant. As someone who played D1 since alpha and completed the game fully. So the general consensus is changes to pvp have ruined pve. personally, i think both pve and pvp have been ruined. bungie should seriously consider separating pve and pvp as many people have suggested because at this stage D1 is a better package than D2. the community needs to be asking bungie harder questions about D2 because right now they're getting away with making changes that make their life easier. other than a graphical upgrade can anybody tell me what bungie have added to the game that improves gameplay over D1 because i can't think of any. Why do we have that secondary weapon thing?I dont see why we would want to have 2 Primary weapon and then this bloody "power weapon". I want snipers and Fusions and Shotguns back as secondary as it is in d1, those weapons were a huge part of it d1 and now you have to pick up that power ammo.... i dont seee the point in having 2 primarys. Making a game perfectly balanced turns it into something like CS:GO. The randomness of how another player's ability cool downs or weapon rolls is what gave Destiny 1 the personality. It was so much more accessible. By making it this competitive, people who are even a little bit behind in skill level will tend to shy away from PVP. Another concern of mine is that these balance changes will result in a much different PVE setting. You won't have those fun infinite grenade warlock builds or the satisfaction of just running around shoulder charging every Cabal in your way. Sure, it got really broken most of the time but a lot of people derived fun from this rather than a competitive multiplayer or a deep inspection of the lore/story. Maybe a reconsideration of how these elements affect PVE? Probably won't happen! They absolutely killed the movement. Idk why they had to change the way everything played so much. It is not the buttery smooth action and movement that I fell in love with in d1. It takes so long to kill now, and you don't have that rush when you're slaying in the crucible because it just takes too long and everything feels awkward and stiff. I really really wish we could customize our class with the exact perks we wanted rather than selecting 2 pre-set ones. Don't dumb the game down and give us less to play with, it was never a problem in D1. Definitely make this game more PVE oriented and balance them separately. Grenades and supers feel like it takes forever to get with melee and abilities. Bungie is killing their game in favor of PvP Balance or from a PvE standpoint it sure feels like it. Destiny 1 PvE feels amazing as of now you're powerful, you feel like choosing your loadout makes an impact, you can run diffrent builds if you want to. But Destiny 2 PvE doesn't feel anything like this anymore. Movement Speed was never a problem in PvE and as of now you feel like you're constantly being held back by your movement abilites All because it was balanced for PvP Abilities and supers feel weak amd come back waaaay to slow all because they were balanced for PvP Skilltree paths and perks feel bland and you either choose this or that path. No mix and matching of perks anymore to suit your playstyle and all because of PvP Balance 2/3 of your weapon loadout are the same weapons and you now have to make the choice between sniping or running a rocket launcher while playing a strike all because of PvP Balance Bungie for the love of the game make the cut between PvE and PvP. We can have both things that way a fun and powerful PvE experience and a fun and balanced PvP experience. So just balance stuff differently or else I feel like you're gonna loose either the PvE or the PvP audience. As a day 1 Halo player who has supported Bungie over the years since the Halo days...i can no longer Support nor Defend Bungie after this Beta it is so FLAWED!!!