Simple: Would you rather 100 shitty choices? Or 20 extremely effective choices? Seems pretty clear to me. With d1: You had the illusion of choice: Certain perks were meaningless and never actually improved your chances of winning/completing any activity that weapons and armor couldn't already do. With d2: We are getting a reduction in the amount of useless perks and gear. And although this means a reduction in choice; it most certainly means an increase in the effectiveness of these limited choices. Edit: I muted the fella that was arguing on here because he was talking about a lot of things that you couldn't possibly know. But, the devs have stated that they are reducing player choice in some regards to give us more sustenance. That's all I need. I don't need 100 crappy perks or subclass abilities. Give me some that count and will be useful. That is the only point. But, there are just some people that want to complain, just to complain.

Reserving judgement, but here's how I see D1 players: D - Noobs. Not sure about anything regarding weapons and armour. C - Some experience of levelling a few nodes in a sub-class. Have begun to feel a pull towards certain types of weapons. Armour: what's available and higher than current light. B - Has fully levelled a subclass and completed main story campaign. Some PvP experience. Wondering about levelling to do raids and Iron Banner events. Does not understand how sub-class builds affect game-play. A - Experienced with multiple sub-classes. Has completed raids and other end-game content. Maybe has reached or approaching max light. Has completed raid/s and Iron Banner. Has played Trials but frustrated about progress. Vocal and opinionated about the game but has many logical flaws in reasoning. Believes there is an objectively 'correct' build and load-out for each subclass. Rigid and inflexible play-style. Highly stat-focussed. S - Expert level player. Fully understands sub-class strengths and weaknesses. Willing to experiment but is not an anti-meta adopter in high-level content. Usually happy and willing to help less experienced players. High grimoire score. Completed all raids and has been to the Lighthouse multiple times under own steam. Has balanced and reasoned views about the game. Less stat-focussed than A-level players, but more outcomes driven. X - Maverick player. Very rare. Actively explores and enjoys seeking out and using, in all activities, idiosyncratic builds and weapons. Is not 'results/stat focussed' at all and is likely to betray you and your Fireteam in pursuit of personal fulfilment. Usually found alone, or with a less experienced colleague, attempting to glitch out of the map and wielding distinctly unfashionable gear. Understands builds, weapons, and the whole game intimately. Does not even acknowledge peer critique. You can decide for yourself where 'the market' is... Edit: X players are often confused with B level, by A level players in lfg groups. X players are horrifying to A.

Dumbing down makes it easier to combat buffs and nerfs...stay tuned for destiny 3...get to play as the tihunlock and only able to choose a grenade a jump and melee ;)

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In year 1 this was OP or that was OP. By year 3 a new term started bouncing about. "Balance" Bungie has changed things up so now weapons no longer have various rolls and subclasses have identical skill trees. What does that mean? It means at any given time you'll be using the exact same weapon, with the exact same skill tree as one or two other players on the opposing team. Why? Because Balance.

Considering how people only used a very select few perks on subclasses and how people in pvp only ever uses the same perks (stupid youtubers and streamers), all the unused perks were removed from the game and either replaced with different perks (golden gun 6 shooter) or completely removed period (self-rez cheating ass warlocks). Blame pvp players for why weapon perks are static, armor perks are static, and why our subclass perks are static, and also why the ttk subclasses were removed from the game.

They took out that Armor Recovery and Agility perk boosters right? Good. You were so limited with what combos ypi could have. Now that they are tied to armor, my hunter can finally have an armor and recovery build.

I believe it's an excellent decision. I like the simplifications they're putting into the game. I really think it's gonna be fantastic

simplified doesn't mean it'll be better. D2 would be like taking Rock Paper Scissors and removing Paper because it'll make things easier. does that make the game better? not really :/

You know, sometimes less is more you know? You simplify/limit the quantity to make the few left over even better and more effective. More options isn't always better, it really just bloats things out if not done correctly and bungie isn't capable of doing things correctly.

To many unnecessary changes has happened to this game once again and has been for almost 3 years now. Some may like it and some wont. But my biggest issue with this company is knowing how they keep changing things that this game has become one big pushed out product always struggling to meet their deadlines. Seriously, how many leveling systems does this game need? How many times are they going to keep changing the game that brings it futher and futher from the concept of the game? When does removing things from this game have it's limit. When they start removing the characters abilities, set weapons like Halo? How many story characters are just going to get thrown in the trash? This game has been worked on for almost 10 years now and they still don't have any form of a foundation to build from to make an actual complete game. D2 is no more then Y1 when it was released but with less of what you were as a Guardian. At least gamers actually had a reason to run the repetitive content and rewards that were worth the time trying to acquire. What's sad is knowing this company could be offering a hell of a lot more...

I see posts for the changes.... and against the changes. Does it really matter? It is not something you have control over, it is a decision Bungie has made. Wait for the beta, try it out for yourself. If you don't like it. Move on to a different game. If you like it, buy the game. Pretty simple really.

I don't want to hear any complaints you all can't get away from Nova Bombs. That old lady could cross the road before it hits anyone. Looks absolutely spectacular and I can't wait to use it. I reckon the limited changes will be a good thing. I mean, unless you're a Defender Titan, how many times do you really change things in your subclass? As I always say, just wait and see. All will be revealed in time.

Honestly I rarely ever changed my build on my subclasses, so I don't really mind if they have limited options. But I'll decide after I play it whether or not I like the change. Just be open to different things when it comes to d2, give it a fair chance.

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