experience
1. Kings Fall
For me this is about the nostalgia mostly. I do love all 4 of the boss fights and the jumping puzzles/golg maze. The intro and bridge are fun as well. Inevitably the biggest drawback to this raid is you need a decent team.
2. Crota's End
I always loved traversing the abyss and the Crota fight. The thing that bumped it up for me is the Deathsinger challenge which is quite fun to me and the bridge update.
3. Wraith of the Machine
This whole raid is fun to me I know a lot of people don't like the boss fights but I enjoy them with the right team. The death Zamboni is epic. I really enjoyed the outbreak prime quest as well.
4. Vault of Glass
I really enjoy this raid as well. The reason why its last for me is the oracle and conflux phases before Templar. I did enjoy the challenges but again not fun without a good team.
Gear(ornamental gear)
1. CE
2. VoG
3. WotM(2nd ornament)
4. KF
5. WotM(1st ornament)
Weapons
1. VoG (fav weapon Vision of Confluence)
close second as far as overall weapons but vision pushes this to the top for me
2. WotM (fav weapon Ex Machina)
Imo the best set of raid weapons top to bottom but i like other singular weapons from other raids better than any in this one.
3. CE (fav weapon Fang of Ir Yut)
i like this set as well lots of good special weapons and hunger is the best rocket from the raids.
4. KF (Fav weapon Harrowed Quillim's Terminus)
very underwhelming set of weapons Yasmin and Quillim's are the only real standouts to me.
Bonus
Shaders
1. Weldfire
2. Nanopoesis
3. Incaradine
4. Ascendant Plane
5. Chatterwhite
6. Time Glass
7. Malevolance
8. Dance of Bones
9. Glowhoo
10. Bone Marrow
11. Crytographic
Emblems
1. Soul Extracted
2. Glass and Time
3. Collapse of Space
4. The Ascendant
5. Of Light and Hunger
6. Devourer of Light
7. Worm Gods Servant
8. Silence after Song
9. Devil Undone
10. Machina Sacra
11. Vosik's Venom
12. Kingsbane
13. Machine God's Bane
14. Crota's End
Ships
1. NanoPhoenix (still havent gotten it)
2. Bane of the Dark Gods
3. Aspect of Glass
4. Light in the Abyss
5. Glass Minuet
6. Agonarch Carve
Sparrows
1. Replicator
2. Graverobber
3. Timekeeper
4. Usurper
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1 RespuestaEditado por Raider TCK: 4/18/2017 9:01:55 PMRevised version: Overall raid: 1. Kings fall 2. VOG 3. WOTM 4. CE Weapons overall: 1. VOG 2. WOTM 3. CE 4. Kings fall Best scout rifle: 1. Vision of confluence 2. Chaos dogma 3. Fang Best hand cannon: Fatebringer is the only one worth mentioning. Beat auto rifle: 1. Genesis chain 2. Abyss defiant Pulse rifle: 1. Steel medulla 2. Smite of merain Shotgun: 1. Found verdict 2. Quantiplasm Sniper: (not including black hammer) Ex Machina is better than all the other raid snipers by a distant margin. It's better than all exotics in most situations as well. Fusion rifle 1. Praetorian foil Rocket launcher 1. Hunger of crota 2. Hezen vengeance LMG 1. Quillems terminus 2. Corrective measure 3. If materia. Hardest challenges: (although none are difficult with a veteran team) 1. Aksis 2. Atheon These were the only challenges that have caused any difficulty in the teams I have been in.
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[b]Experience:[/b] 1. Vault of Glass 2. King's Fall 3. Wrath of the Machine 4. Crota's End The top three is really close together for me because each of them is fun in their own way. [b]Gear (looks):[/b] 1. VoG/KF/WoTM 2. CE The new CE gear is really poorly made as the ornaments don't do more than add some green/blue spikes, poor design if you ask me. [b]Weapons:[/b] 1. VoG (Vision of Confluence) 2. Wrath of the Machine (Ex Machina) 3. King's Fall (Qullim's Terminus) 4. CE (Word of Crota)
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Editado por w3rdblader: 4/16/2017 2:00:26 PMExperience VoG CE KF WM Gear CE VoG WM KF Weapons WM VoG CE KF The only "difficult" part of KF is LFG. The other raids all have the ability to have 3 morons in the group, KF requires those morons to know how to shoot at a target that doesn't really attack back. WTF with people at oryx that are too -blam!-ing lazy to kill their acolytes after the light eater knights? You literally have 3 things you need to shoot and you only shoot one of them, TF?
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[b]Experience[/b]: 1. [i]KF[/i]- doing this raid for the first time will always be the best. The feeling of being overwhelmed with mechanics was incredible. 2. [i]VoG[/i]- first raid, set the standard, and the pacing of its boss fights is the best, but the conflux fazes slow it down. 3. [i]WoTM[/i]- this would be higher, but the amount of killing adds over and over (especially Vosic) without mechanics slows it down. 4. [i]Crota[/i]-well, a NF strike is not supposed to cream your pants. [b]Gear[/b]: [i]VoG[/i]- the original Fatebringer, VoC, Found Verdict, and the first Vex Mythoclast were all outstanding. This approach with raid weapons needs to carry over with Destiny 2. [i]Crota[/i]- Fang of Ir Yut is good, Swordbearer is good, Rocket is really good, but Black Hammer (my favorite gun) was incredible. [i]WoTM[/i]- only good weapons are pulse and sniper. People thought Chaos Dogma would be good, but its inability to 1 shot key enemies kills it. [i]KF[/i]- Smite of Merain is my favorite legendary Pulse, but it is not a favorite of the community. Quillims is good, but can be replaced by a Ruin Wake. Bungie: DO NOT USE KF AS AN EXAMPLE OF LOOT. [b]Aesthetic[/b] [i]VoG[/i]- the sheer amount of random nooks and crannies makes exploring VoG so fun. Being able to explore while some idiot in the Fireteam is gone is something Bungie should replicate. Also, the whole background of Atheon and the destruction of Time is phenomenal. In addition, The Vex are the coolest enemy. [i]Crota[/i]- similar to VoG, but lacking exploration. [i]KF[/i]- the secret basketball room was sweet, and in general the Hive architecture makes for good looks. The Dreadnought in general was well designed. [i]WoTM[/i]- in terms of graphical quality and eye candy Wrath easily takes the lead. But, Siva makes for a disappointing enemy. There was never any fear of it by players, or the lore behind it. Monitors were cool, but other than that there is little to explore.
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Experience: -WoTM -VoG -KF -CE Weapons: -VoG -WoTM -CE -KF Aesthetics/Design: -WoTM/KF -VoG -CE I think King's Fall is super underrated aesthetically. The transitions from beige to grey lighting is really subtle, the architecture is beautiful, it really feels like loads of time went into it. Same with WoTM. It looks STUNNING.
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Editado por Elden Lord Archon: 4/14/2017 4:38:32 PM[b]Experience[/b] 1) [u]WOTM[/u] - Perfect length, badass music, and I love throwing those SIVA charges. Besides, it also has a boss at the very beginning. The mechanics require teamwork, but still allow for a little bit of flexibility (unlike King's Fall). 2) [u]VOG[/u] - This raid has the best scenery imo. Also, it has the most fun relic to use in the entire game. It encourages teamwork, but still allows you to clutch if some teammates die (except for Atheon challenge). Also, you can use whatever weapon type you want and still do a good job. 3) [u]Crota's End[/u] - I think this one is by far, the most interesting raid, lore wise. However, it's a bit too short and too easy for my taste. For most of the raid, only 1 player really has a significant role: the swordbearer. 4) [u]King's Fall[/u] - All you really do in this raid is stand in certain places and snipe. This raid forces you to use a sniper and nothing else. It's also really long and tedious. I've done all parts of that raid, but I've still never done all of it in 1 sitting. There aren't any relics either, besides the entrance. And I think the entrance relics are kind of boring. [b]Armor[/b] I'm a mixed set guardian, so it's really hard to say. But if I had to wear a full set, I'll rank my favorite to least favorite, based on warlock armor. 1) [u]VOG[/u] - This is my favorite because the warlock chest piece is the most badass chest piece in the entire game. As if that weren't enough, they took the most badass armor piece in the entire game AND ADDED GORGON TENTACLES!!!!!!!!! FÛCK YEAH!!!!!!!! The warlock ornament boots also look beast. 2) [u]Crota's End[/u] - The Crota warlock gauntlets were my favorite gauntlets to wear back in year 1. I also wore the helmet whenever I wasn't wearing The Ram (which is rare, considering how much I love The Ram). The chest piece is the only armor piece I genuinely hated. The robes are too short, it has an oversized collar, and it has a penis marking on the back. It looks terrible! Chest piece aside, with Age of Triumph, they added glowing green spikes, making the gauntlets a million times more badass than they already were. 3) [u]King's Fall[/u] - I was rather disappointed with the warlock armor when King's Fall came out. The helmet looked so weird, and I absolutely HATED the way it looked. But suddenly AoT came out, and the ornament transformed it from an ugly fishbowl helmet, TO THE MOST BADASS HELMET I'VE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!! I never thought I'd like any helmet more than The Ram, but I NEED THE KING'S FALL ORNAMENT HELMET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm still not a fan of the rest of the armor tho. 4) [u]WOTM[/u] - I think they REALLY butchered the warlock armor for this raid. With all of the other raids, I could find at least 1 armor piece I liked. But for WOTM, every single armor piece for the warlock looks god awful. The helmet looks like a cardboard box, the gauntlets are lack luster, and the chestpiece looks like a lab coat fused with a checkerboard. It looks like a scientist who plays chess SIVA on his chest because he's lonely and has no friends because he looks like shit. [b]Exotics (non-adepts)[/b] 1) [u]Outbreak Prime[/u] - If I ranked these based on how they're obtained, this would've been in last place. I don't wanna have to do math puzzles with a hunter and titan. I don't wanna have to do time consuming binary shit with a full raid team. But the gun itself is AMAZING!!!!! Despite the lack of elemental damage, it's still my favorite exotic primary, hands down. Who wouldn't want a primary WITH WOLF PACK ROUNDS!?!?!? 2) [u]Nechrochasm (post AoT)[/u] - Although it's not as good as the Zhalo, this weapon can cause mass destruction in PVE, especially on Arc Burn. This one has the perfect size quest, but I wish we didn't have to kill a specific type of hive. 3) [u]Vex Mythoclast[/u] - This weapon looks and sounds badass, but it's currently very underwhelming. I can't seem to find a good use for it in PVE or PVP. It is a shadow of its former self. Also, there is no quest to get it. All you need to do is hard mode Atheon and hope it drops. And that's really boring. 4) [u]Touch of Malice[/u] - For the daughters of Oryx, and big daddy Oryx himself, the ToM is one of the best weapons you can possibly use. But in the rest of the game, it's awful. Not only is it the worst exotic in the game, it's probably the worst weapon, period. Who in their right mind would sacrifice health for ANYTHING???? The entire point of weapons are to eliminate threats and defend yourself. But if the weapon itself is a threat, than what's the point? It defeats the whole purpose. If you use this thing in PVP, you'll lose almost every gunfight. Terrible weapon.
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Experience: 1. Vault of Glass 2. King's Fall 3. Wrath of the Machine 4. Crota's End Gear (w/ Ornaments) 1. Vault of Glass 2. Wrath of the Machine 3. King's Fall 4. Crota's End Weapons 1. Vault of Glass 2. Wrath of the Machine 3. Crota's End 4. King's Fall [spoiler][i]Notice that one of the raids tops each list[/i][/spoiler]
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Hardest 1. Kings Fall(oryx) 2.Crotas end(crota challenge) 3.Wotm (challenges) 4. Vog (my 3 teams didnt have a hard time with this raid) Most fun 1.Wotm (siva bombs, darkdrinker, scorch cannons ALL IN ONE ENCOUNTER) 2.Kings Fall (heavily based on team work) 3.Vog (i just dont like how 3 encounters are in the same room) 4.Crotas end (too short and too easy until u get to crota) Best Parts Vog (Atheon) Crotas end (once 5 people get over the bridge) Kings fall (seeing oryx soar through the sky when u killed him) Wotm (Zamboni) Problems Crotas end too short Kings fall needs good teamates Vog if one of your teamates die, its a wipe for atheon Wotm confusing for new players
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5 Respuestasmechanically i think each raid only has like one good encounter. Vog, has atheon crota has lamps kings fall has Golgoroth wrath has aksis phase 2 These are examples of good raid design, or things that actually make you work as a team( when they aren't being cheesed to high hell) and things that require communication Enjoyment wise Kings fall (when it's not being buggy as shit) is the most enjoyable for me but I do enjoy them all. Visually Vault of glass is no doubt the coolest looking raid of them all Gear Crota's end has the dopest looking armor sets(both pre-and after AOT) Weapons Wrath of the machine, it has all across the board good weapons Vault has an awesome beginning, and end, but I feel like the middle is very meh with conflux,oracle, and templar all being in the same spot Crota is much too short and is just a slightly harder strike with 6 people Kings fall, feels the most well put together, decent bosses, with fun travel between them, it's just very buggy wrath like crota is too short IMO and only has two real boss encounters with vosik, and aksis phase 2
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VoG, WotM, Crota, KF
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1 RespuestaCrota VOG KF WoM What swordbearer would not vote Crota #1?
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1 RespuestaVoG for all categories.
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Weapons vog Most fun crota Most well designed vog Best looking armour vog
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Experience: 1. Kings fall (certainly feels the most epic) 2. Vault of glass (nostalgia plus mysterious) 3. Crota's end (hectic and fun) 4. Wrath of the machine (I just don't like the mechanics for the last boss, it suffers the most from lag and I don't like either challenge modes) Weapons 1. VOG. I mean vision is one of the best weapons ever and it's still top tier. Fatebringer is a shadow of its former glory but it's still great. Lots of other great weapons as well. 2. Wrath of the machine. The sniper is the best sniper in the game for pve. Most of the weapons are pretty damn good with only one or two lacking. 3. Crotas end. The fang is solid. So is the hunger of crota. The black hammer was amazing but it's not in year 3. 4. Kings fall. Smite is ok if you get firefly. Snipers ok for pvp. LMG is Fantastic. Everything else has bad stats and wasted perk slots with bad perk choices.
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CE WoTM KF VoG
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Vog is fun. Crota is fun. Wrath is even kind of fun. Kings fall is terrible. All mechanics there
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Kings fall was the worst in every regard.
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Experience Wotm VOG CE KF Ornamented gear CE KF VOG 1 Wotm 2 Wotm 1 VOG 2 Weapons VOG Wotm CE KF
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experience 1. VoG 2. KF 3. WOTM 4. CE Gear(ornamental gear) 1. CE 2. VoG 3. KF 4. WOTM 5. WotM Weapons 1. VoG (fav weapon Vision of Confluence) 2. WotM (fav weapon Ex Machina) 3. CE (Black Hammer was the only good one) 4. KF (MG was the only good one, Pulse is alright)
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1. VoG 2. Crota 3. KF 4. WoTM
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12 Respuestas1. WoTM 2. KF 3. Crota 4. VoG I really don't understand why everyone loves VoG it has the easiest mechanics very easy boss fights and in my opinion the easiest raid
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Kings Fall for the sexy armor, Wrath for the ok pve gear (EX MACHINA, CHAOS DOGMA)
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Overall... 1. VoG The others, I can't rank for sure. I like them all. But Vault is hands down my favorite.
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2 RespuestasExperience 1 King's Fall 2 Vault of Glass 3 Wrath of the Machine 4 Crota's End Gear Ornamental 1 King's Fall 2 Vault of Glass 3 Crota's End 4 Wrath of the Machine Weapons 1 Vault of Glass 2 Wrath of the Machine 3 Crota's End 4 King's Fall
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1. VoG 2. WotM 3. Crota 4. Kings Fall
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1. Vog 2. CE 3. WotM 4. KF ... ... ... ... ... 5. PoE 6. CoE