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Editado por xImJefry:
4/13/2017 10:02:00 PM
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You know what? I'm gonna say it. Kings fall has the worst weapons out of all raids.
Cocoon is trash. All the weapons have laughably bad stats, not to mention the life leach perk. Stability and reload speed is a problem with all of the primaries. Shotgun has no range. Rocket Launcher blows. Everyone has their own opinion, but stats don't lie.
Edit: Thank you j8p8w8! -[quote]The general consensus with a PvE bias because afterall, they are PvE obtained weapons... I don't care if something is outstanding in PvP.
Fatebringer > Fever & Remedy > Word of Crota > Zaouli's Bane
Vision of Confluence > Chaos Dogma > Doom of Chelchis > Fang of Ir Yut (Reason: Third Eye/Spray & Play are meh)
Genesis Chain > Atheon's Epilogue > Abyss Defiant > Anguish of Drystan
Steel Medulla > Smite of Merain w/Firefly > Praedyth's Timepiece > Oversoul Edict (Reason: OE has a hive specific perk in place of a standard perk)
Found Verdict is slightly > Quantiplasm > Silence of A'arn > Swordbreaker (Low Impact Shotguns are yuck)
Black Hammer/Spindle > Ex Machina > Defiance of Yasmin > Praedyths Revenge (Low Impact Snipers are yuck)
Praetorian Foil is slightly > Ether Nova > Light in the Abyss > Midha's Reckoning
Hunger of Crota > Hezen Vengeance > Elulim's Frenzy > Sound & Fury (Reason: S&F doesn't have any of the must have Rocket Launcher perks)
Quillum's Terminus > Corrective Measure > If Materia > Song of Ir Yut
Point system: 1st Place gets 4 points, 2nd place 3 points, 3rd Place 2 points, 4th place 1 point
Vault of Glass: (4+4+3+2) + (4+1+4) + (3+3) = 28 points
Crota's End: (2+1+2+1) + (1+4+2) + (4+1) = 19 points
Kings Fall: (1+2+1+3) + (2+2+1) + (2+4) = 18 points
WoTM: (3+3+4+4) + (3+3+3) + (1+2) = 26 points
Conclusion: Yes, Kings Fall weapons are overall the worst in the game, however the Crota's End weapons are seriously overrated and basically on par with them yet nobody says a thing about them.[/quote]
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I only use the kings fall weapons because of cocoon. But once I gotten hunger of Crota I put the kings fall launcher away
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KF provided the only raid weapon that I use 100% across my 3 toons. QT(hmg) But I agree in the overall picture besides cocoon being trash, great perk, never stop shooting rocks.
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22 RespuestasQullims Terminus was the greatest machine gun in the long history of Destiny, until some douchbags at Bungie nerfed it to appease the Crucibabies.
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The machine gun isn't too bad. I use it in Kings fall and PvP. It does destroy in the crucible. The adept spite is decent. Everything else I'm not too sure about, but I know the hand cannon is a joke.
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The primaries suck. Merain was good, but Fatebringer's back, so.....
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Smite, Yasmin, Terminus. That's it, rest are trash.
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Actually the pulse is pretty decent, and the scout isn't half bad. But they are the coolest LOOKING raid weapons. VoG is just really some guns with cool coloring and perks, but that's about it. CE is better, but it's just guns with some decoration slapped on. WotM suffers the same problem. KF weapons, however... You're holding bones and flesh, morphed and twisted into weapons. They are quite literally the most unique raid weapons, as they are literally the only weapons like that, as the don't follow a standard gun framework.
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The shotgun is alright, and the machine gun is better than average. Luckily the raid is a lot of fun, except for the jumping.
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Quillams is probably the best lmg in the game and the scout is ok. Other than that yeah, the guns are pretty trash. The gauntlets are great, especially if you get the sniper reloader perk. The fast reload works in any aura, not just kf. (Times vengeance, empowerment, etc)
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1 RespuestaThe only gun that is useful is the pulse. It's not bad for pve. Other that that all the other raid weapons outclass the kf weapons
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1 RespuestaThe fusion in PVP. Done me well so far on a defender titan
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1 RespuestaAlso, water is wet.
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I am loving the new pulse and scout. The machine gun is still the best in the game
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I use the machine gun, nothing else. Got Touch and quit raiding. The mechanics were fun, but very unforgiving making it the hardest raid. I never beat hm and it never bothered me, because there was nothing worth trying for anyway.
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Sniper is amazing if you can get good with it and the heavy mg is amazing
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And it only took you THIS long, to figure that out?
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[quote]Cocoon is trash. All the weapons have laughably bad stats, not to mention the life leach perk. Stability and reload speed is a problem with all of the primaries. Shotgun has no range. Rocket Launcher blows. Everyone has their own opinion, but stats don't lie.[/quote] I like them as they do elemental damage and I really like this raid so it's a win win for me.
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2 RespuestasAnd people want to do challenge for those weapons, thats the sad part. Xd
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2 RespuestasEditado por TheArtist: 4/13/2017 12:32:45 PMDisagree. Cocoon is an awesome perk. The problem is that the base stats of the weapons are poor, because Bungie over-reacted to how overpowered the Year 1 raid weapons were and the chilling effect they had on PVE build diversity..... ...and they went too far in the other direction. Also: 1. Shotguns in PVE aren't about range....they are about DPS (rate of fire and impact). Because (unlike in PVP) you can't count on your target always going down with one shot. So the last thing you want is some big-nasty coming at you....you shoot him once for a third of his health....but then are left standing their helpless because your Matador isn't ready to fire again. Bottom line. the KF shotgun is an excellent shotgun for PVE play. The cocoon perk being ESPECIALLY helpful. (That shotgun is the only original KF raid weapon I still have...and use) 2. The Pulse Rifle and Scout Rilfes are also quite good. Not best-in-slot....but quite good. The LMG is one of the best in the game. Only the VoG raid LMG is a better legendary. 3. The Sniper has a ton of Aim-assist and is good for PVP. The Fusion rifle is Okay. The Rocket laucher sucks mainly because its so hard to get one with usable perks. The only weapons that really suck outright are the hand cannon and the auto rifle.
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4 RespuestasEditado por zNapSack: 4/13/2017 4:22:37 PMDoom of Chelchis (Adept) and Smite of Merain (Adept) are not bad and the only two worth using IMO. That said, VoC (Adept) is still the better scout and Steel Medulla (Adept) likely the better pulse.
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2 RespuestasTrue Although I love Smite of Merain. Honestly, it's probably my favorite raid weapon next to Quantiplasm.
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2 RespuestasThe wrath of the machine weapons are going to be amazing. They already have perks that play off each other.
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3 RespuestasI'm skipping KF this week. Might do aksis next week, been grinding coe for lord of wolf
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Youre saying this like its a controversial opinion. [spoiler]Everything is trash except for the pulse and mg, imo.[/spoiler]
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Cocoon is not trash, the heavy machine gun is a great weapon. Every other weapon is trash, I'll agree with you on that.
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11 RespuestasDoes it really matter there fun to play around with. Besides the cacoon perk comes in handy when doing dps to a raid boss. If you have three weapons with cacoon an your shooting say the warpriest starting with your primary empty the clip switch to special empty the clip then go heavy empty the clip then by the time you get around to one more primary clip before you move on to the next round. So that's a lot of damage instead of trying to reload cacoon reloads for you.
