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4/10/2017 9:00:24 PM
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So many people give King's Fall shit. I'd like to hear the reasons of those who do.
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I very much like the raid itself, but hate the loot except for Smite and Quillim's. I like that it is the longest raid because it feels like we're going deeper into the underworld and I feel a raid should be an endurance test of our power and teamwork. I like the bosses, despite them mostly just being stationary while you shoot them in a magic puddle/bubble. And the lore behind it all is my favorite part (Books of Sorrow especially), it really seems like we're defeating one of the ultimate evils in galaxy/universe. I view it as KF winning with the sheer magnitude and epicness of the situation, and VoG wins with the mystery and sense of unwavering, unfeeling evil of the enemy (the Vex).
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I saw someone post something regarding the boss mechanics that made me laugh. Then I thought about it and realized they were completely right. Wish I remembered the name I'd give them credit. "Stand at point A, DPS the boss" "Stand in puddle, DPS boss" "Stand within that bubble, DPS the boss" The entire raid is literally just standing within a certain area and shooting. I realize you could likely use this argument to shit talk any raid probably but it just seems a lot more obvious in KF.
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It's true for all but Oryx. You only shoot at him in a small fraction of the encounter. Otherwise, I agree.
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I was going to specify that Oryx had some shenanigans thrown in but I fellt my post was already getting long winded. You're 100% correct.
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Editado por juicehead2004: 4/11/2017 11:07:21 PMThe weapons suck, by far the worst weapons of all the raids.
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Smite is juicy
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Bad Teammates (Not the games Fault), Annoying Mechanics, Lag will ruin any Fight Instantly, Platforms when torn don't let you stand on them, the list goes on and on trust me.
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Editado por Eternity: 7/10/2017 7:49:29 AM[b] [/b]
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Bcz shit is shit no matter where u look at it from!
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I always hated the hive, and the dreadnaught is probably my absolute least favorite place to be in all of Destiny, combine that with the fact I always end up falling asleep halfway through the raid, and it culminates to the raid I hate the most[spoiler]no hate on anyone who likes it, and I'm still running it if only so I can finally get ascendant plane[/spoiler]
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I don't really have an issue with the raid itself. It's mostly that this is the main raid that I hate running with a random group. Because a lot of people have issues with it in general and especially the challenges. So there's a lot of times it ends up being a waste of time unless I'm doing it with my usual group.
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KF is far too dependent on convoluted and rigid, unforgiving mechanics. The raid is fun up through the Warpriest encounter, then takes a left turn into Snoozeville. Conversely: WotM is heavy on mechanics as well, but the mechanics are more straightforward and easy to adapt to on the fly. Raid mechanics are far more enjoyable when they're more flexible. VoG will always be my fave, though.
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I cannot agree with you more!!!!! Well, said!!!
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Editado por Dooodley: 4/11/2017 2:14:53 PMWatched preview - Looked boring Watched twitch on launch day since I wasnt able to play - Looked boring Got around to play it a few days later - Truely boring AF. It's the most static raid of them all. You basically just stand around lollygagging with your weapon out. Also, the weapons suck in comparison to the other options in the game.
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[quote]...Truely boring AF. It's the most static raid of them all. You basically just stand around lollygagging with your weapon out.[/quote] Agreed.
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I don't dislike it, I'll admit it, but it's the worst raid imo simply because you HAVE to have everyone that knows what they are doing or you can't win. The mechanics of the raid just feel a lot more like someone has to do the job no one else wants to do, like jumping platforms and taking gaze. The idea of one person completes a task to allow everyone else to do DPS is rather boring I found, because that requires you to find who would be the best at the job, and that's fine and all but when you do raids with my team, I HAVE to do the important job or else we will never complete it. (Relic on templar, swordbearer, plate jumper) But what I do like about it is the challenge it offers because of this, it feels the most rewarding to finally beat (albeit the worst rewards of any raid) but it feels more accomplishing. Crota is short and simple but has a uniqueness that really only applies to the hive and I enjoy it. Atheon is very fun to fight because he doesn't have such massive health that the battle isn't drawing on like it does in kings fall, and the rewards are very good for pve. Wrath of the machine is a very fun raid because it's complete teamwork not just an individual doing some unappealing task to have your team mates do dps. It's a raid where everyone has an important role but doesn't require you to be 100% good at it to be able to successfully complete it, with some of the most lackluster design for weapons but some of the most useful for both pve and PvP they make for fun weapons regardless. So in conclusion I just think that the challenge to reward ratio is what really brings the raid down because it quickly exhausts people from lack of good gear and the tension created beforehand won't be alleviated because of it.
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I love jumping platforms and taking gaze, my friends and I fight for it, no lie
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You enjoy that? I don't like having to do it.
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Heck yeah, I like it when a group is reliant on my skill, keeps me on my toes, and whenever I want to be torn, its always the players that never want to lol
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King's Fall is the best designed Raid and the best in my opinion. I just think that unlike other Raids, King's Fall wasn't a walk in the park at max light (maybe for some it was) but it is the Hardest Raid and it might have exposed the pretentious players. I only have around over 20 completions for KF but I still like it the most.
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Aesthetically and mechanics wise it's the best raid in the game, VOG is my baby since year one but I'll admit it's close between the two, really gave you a sense of how big the dreadnought was
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The raid is great but the weapons suck except for the machine gun
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Editado por EARWAK3R: 4/11/2017 1:05:38 PMPersonally i love it. But people hate on it because it was the raid that exposed all the terrible players. All those that got pulled through vog and crota by better players suddenly had a job to do and it ended them when they couldnt do it. Theres people who still cant even jump across the ships...
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Seriously?
