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4/6/2017 2:28:53 AM
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The range drop should help pulse rifles be more competitive against hand cannons because they were ineffective in a majority of 1v1s.
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Pulses did not need any help lol
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They need three precision bursts to kill in the same time as 1 precision 2 body from the most common hand cannon archetype. Since hand cannons became more accurate landing that first shot precision was easy.
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Lol their TTKs for crit shots are literally .01s difference. Body shot is .03s difference. Add the fact that pulses don't suffer from damage dropoff nearly to the extent that handcannons did and especially now do. Not even to mention bloom. Add high caliber rounds to pulses as well which they made affect handcannons. Only reason handcannons are still competitive is because they are good in the hands of a decent player. I guarantee crappy players would do a lot better with a pulse rifle like Hawksaw than an Eyasluna.
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Editado por TheCyo: 4/6/2017 4:07:08 PMTurn on your brain before your hands do the typing. HC have more usage in the Crucible compared to Pulses (30% to about 10%). So your argument is that there are 30% good players in the crucible and 10% crappy ones? So the good players outnumber the bad ones? If everyone is good, what does good mean? Think.
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Or you know, maybe people prefer hand cannons
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Editado por Bulked, Apostle of Strengf: 4/6/2017 10:45:53 PMA lot of people don't use the popular weapons because they are great with them. likely because they are told those are the weapons they should be great with. For example, the spike in NLB usage. that weapon is ass, but good players can wreck with it. but a ton of people are using it now because that is what our current "meta" is. I was never arguing anything about player percentages of good and bad. that was your own made up theory you tried to pass as mine. all i said was that bad players would likely not do as well with a handcannon as they would a pulse. Everything in the crucible is relative really. what the best/most efficient weapon is all depends on the player's ability and even subclass. During the Clever Dragon meta, handcannons were still more highly used, but the number of players using clever dragon spiked dramatically just because of the rolls they dropped with in the IB. so an archetype that was not largely hated on prior to the CD, was suddenly a massive problem for people in pvp and handcannon nerf cries went dormant.
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Your logic is OP, must nerf
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No, it's just that everyone equips what they get killed by Damn, a palindrome got me, I better equip it myself, must be OP. Then they come and cry when they continue to get outgunned instead of realizing they are just not very good
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People aren't equipping things just because they're killed by them. They're equipping them because they're obviously the best thing in the Crucible. Y'know, hand cannons.
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I disagree. Hand cannons are only as good as the user (excluding litc) Scouts and pulse rifles are in a very good place right now and are much safer options for the lesser skilled players
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Well no shit it's only as good as the wielder. It's that way for all guns. I'm happy you could make that observation.
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My point is there is a much bigger skill gap with hand cannons than there is with weapons like mida, hawksaw or auto rifles
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No, there really isn't. If you have trouble with aiming hand cannons, that's not a "hand cannons are harder to use" problem, that's a "you're really, really bad" problem.
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Right, bc it's so much more difficult to spray mida (90AA) or an auto rifle
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Explain how hand cannons account for over a quarter of Crucible kills compared to 12% for pulse rifle kills. That's been consistent since they removed bloom from hand Cannon's initial accuracy and accounting for damage falloff increase.
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most effective tool within 30 meters sure. HCs have 50% damage dropoff inside anomaly, the tightest map there is. anything past that you need 4+ precision shots for the kill compared to pulses which is 3 at practically any gunfight distance on destiny maps
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Maybe people just like hand cannons
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Or that they are the most effective tool.
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Depends on your play style. You won't beat out a scout rifle or pulse rifle on larger maps
