Tl;dr- There is no clear vision or direction at Bungie for the Destiny franchise. We need to get people in at Bungie with some balls and true leadership qualities. We need to petition to Activision to put the people who currently lead this game and handle its management into lower positions at Bungie headquarters for the sake of the community and for the sake of the Destiny franchise. [b]Or[/b] [b]we[/b] [b]need[/b] [b]to[/b] [b]accept[/b] [b]Destiny[/b] [b]for[/b] [b]what[/b] [b]it[/b] [b]is[/b] [b]and[/b] [b]get[/b] [b]over[/b] [b]it[/b]. I'm new to the forums but when I got here I couldn't believe my eyes. I had just been playing Destiny since year 1 minding my own business. Then, when my skeleton keys disappeared I wandered to the forums to report the problem but to my surprise no one gave a crap. So I furthered deeper into the forums and community and came to the general Destiny forum instead of the help section and what did I find? A community being ignored and abused by a multi million dollar company! Wow! Coming from someone with a background in business, and knowing first hand the importance of what business ethics and standards can do for a product and it's company and it's target audience/consumer, was appalled that my favorite game was being ran by amateurs! There is absolutely NO VISION and NO DIRECTION in Destiny, in their (Bungie's) product or product development. The first example of this would be the Trials of Osiris paid carries nonsense, and the system at which you get the Trials of Osiris loot, as opposed to the ENTIRE DESTINY UNIVERSE! Everywhere else in the game the reward system is based off RNG, rolling the dice, but Trials of Osiris is based off winning, card wins. I could really care less about Trials and it's loot. What does that tell me as a consumer of a product though? That the management and staff over at Bungie are all over the place, running around like chickens with their heads cut off. They have no direction or vision for their product/franchise, Destiny. They have no time or man power to manage the demand that their product produces. (The community/player-base has been starving since this franchise began!) Along with a PLETHORA of other ill fated notions and situations at Bungie. I don't think anything will get better in Destiny 2 or the continuing franchise unless the top management at Bungie gets replaced or put into lower positions within the company. I hate to fire people, so sometimes it's best to just place them within the company where they can still contribute their target genius somewhere else more suited to their character and talents. Maybe these people have great ideas but they DO NOT KNOW HOW TO LEAD OR MANAGE this game properly. The only thing the management at Bungie knows how to do properly, is make a great looking and functional game. This does not mean they know about product development and direction, management of a game, it's community, and how to manage their staff at Bungie headquarters. This does not mean they know how important consumer analytics can be in its product development, and how to market that product to a target audience. This does not mean they know how to stay faithful to a product's vision and stick by that vision no matter what. They need someone at Bungie who can bring a clear vision and direction to Destiny, and someone who has the balls to keep it that way. You don't let the consumers pull your product in a million different directions. You make a product or game with a clear vision and direction and you market it to the public that way. You put your foot down and tell the consumers THIS is your game and product, and if people don't like it, go play a game they do like. And I'm a woman and I have more balls than the leadership at Bungie! What can we do as consumers of a product? What power do we have? Our power is our voices, our collective voices. Our voices have power when they come together and start saying the same thing, and we need to start exercising that power. [b]Or else, we need to accept Destiny for what it is currently. Or else, we need to accept that the staff at Bungie can only take this franchise so far. Or else, we need to accept the Destiny of Destiny. [/b]

Blame the community, we made the game, Bungie listened to us.

Oh, they aren't going to be dropped... you can still enjoy them in Destiny 1 along with your Eververse purchases and other weapons and equipment. But... for the good of the game... they will be left behind in D2.

I don't buy into this. The sandbox team has an impossible task.......make players happy in Destiny. With all the mixed messages, over competitive and down right obsessive players, who can possibly work magic with that? No matter what they do, players will be unhappy.

Yeah I really don't like how they nerf snipers to the ground.

Agree'd. They've f'd up WAYYYYYYY too many times. They shouldn't be allowed to even breathe anywhere near D2.

Nerf Luke Smith and leave his ass behind too

Agreed. Can't expect different results from the same team. If you don't want D2 to be ruined, don't let the sanbox team that ruined D1 to get their grubby hands on D2.

Just keep Josh Hamrick as far away from it as possible. We all know his hand is shaking right now because he really wants to press that "nerf" button.

Hell no! Please bring them over! I want another year of free entertainment on watching them destroy it lol.

Does anybody know if destiny 2 is coming to the switch?

If they do bungie make them play the game 3hrs a week or something

Pathetic statement. D2 has already been completed and they are fine tuning it now before release.

They need to separate PVE and PVP. They also need to prioritise the former over the later.

And the crucible map designers as well.