Gotta laugh at these petitions, explain how and why a petition is going to make them scrap months of work?

I need the secret to killing Bladedancers. I have basically given up trying to stop them, as I watch them kill my team members, get their health restored, and kill the next guardian, and.........until the Super is over. If you get a full team of BD, and Supers start appearing, you might just as well leave for the next game. That is not a healthy game environment. Gunslingers are about as bad but are generally limited to the number of kills they can make. So, I applaud the BD change. The Special ammo change will hurt me because I use a Fusion rifle a lot, but that is ok. I am sick of getting shotgunned in the back. Also, these nuts who run headlong into a full fire team with their shotgun a blazing will have to rethink playing that way. They will be dead like always, but won't have any ammo for the next charge. So, I applaud the change to Special ammo. Basically, what you are against, I am for. We should be in politics.

[quote]Don't nerf accuracy while in air for shotguns, this eliminates the ability to outplay alot of players. Nerfing this closens the skill gap in shotgun engagements. Also, restore the nerfs to snipers so they can be relevant again. Also, completely eliminate bloom. Keep the damage falloff you guys implemented in hand cannons but please eliminate bloom, I guarantee u the community would love this. Also restore the nerf to blade lol, this was the most shocking, idiotic change in the reveal stream. Blade was already the easiest super to kill and then u guys do this lol. Anyways, the proper way to balance blade would be to restore time between swings to what it use to be (swing faster) and replace backstab with a perk that grants a boost to movement speed after a melee kill. Backstab is still glitched out, just replace it since it hasn't worked properly since launch. This perk would also stack with a kill while in super allowing players to be faster after they get a kill. This wouldn't make blade op and would make them more relevant in competitive play. Keep special ammo the way it is now. Lastly, nerf skorris, make it so it only works in pve, this artifact doesn't belong in crucible and is literally game breaking, especially In trials. Anyways, let's try to get bungie to reevaluate some of the changes they showed and hopefully they make some changes before patch goes live. Also, make sure to like the post as well[/quote] Sooo glad someone else is on the same page - thank the lord All bungie ever do is nerf things - often for no reason *cough* blade dancer *cough* gunslinger Swear bungie made it such that there was no special on initial spawn back in year2 & quickly reversed that change If/when they go ahead with the special change - since all the majority of people play now is trials- everyone is going to stop playing (cuz winning the first round give you a 0-1points lead, 10-0Special ammo lead, & 3times the enemies super charge) - the competitive side of destiny will DIE, THE GAME WILL DIE & sales of Destiny 2 at launch will suck.

All they had to do was Increase ttk on clever dragon archetype Remove high caliber rounds on clever dragon archetype Remove bloom from hand cannons Reduce flinch on sniper rifles Increase ammo pickup on sniper rifles Reduce flinch effect from storm trance chaining Decrease range of thunderstrike Decrease damage of amplitude Decrease tethering time of shadowshot Give arc blade a minuscule armor buff Undo the recent gunslinger nerfs Buff fusions back Increase max capacity and box pickup for sidearms And things would be fine But they had to go around destroying what was left of a great game after they've already almost ruined it. This is destiny's curtain call. None of my clanmates want to play after the patch. The competitive scene is all but dead after these changes. Son, I Am Disappoint.

Shotguns are for people with no thumbs.

"you haven't played the patch yet" How about you go headbutt the closest mirror. We saw the changes. They told us them. What makes you think that special ammo nerf is going to be any different than how we saw it. Just headbutt your mirror.

Or you could do something crazy. Try a PRIMARY. After watching the live stream rumble match I am not convinced that the special ammo change will be as bad as some players think it will be.

This update will just create a NLB/ sidearm, universal remote/sniper, invective/icebreaker meta. Everyone will just camp special. This also gives better players an advantage over less skilled players because of special ammo changes

Agreed and bumped. Also, it's totally fair that Titans have Cauterize, warlocks have Life Steal, but hungering blade gets nerfed. Good shit bungie 👍

This patch is the reason I am uninstalling this game finally. It's dead... I am at 400 and the only thing left to do is PvP and they basically ruined it so on to bigger and better things... Perhaps I will be back in year three of destiny 2

If u want to correctly promote primary play, make players want to use their primary not force them lol. And people saying I want these changes because I can't live without a shotty, I have 3x more primary kills than special. That's way higher than the average person. I'm wanting to keep special the way it is now because it wasn't broken. Bungie u yes u may see more primary play but u will also see the game slow down tremendously and u will also see the game become more ability based. This patch will only slow down gameplay, players that think the reason they get pooped on In crucible is because of shotguns are ignorant. The majority of the time it's due to their inability to play the game. I feel along with many top players that they should've buffed primaries more and kept special the way it was. As I said before, MAKE players want to use their primary. Updates shouldn't just be any change, the changes made should make the game more competitive as well as keeping the pace that the community wants. Come Tuesday, players are gunna be in for a rude awakening when they realize how much slower gameplay will be.

Bungie wont do anything. They should have left the game alone from day one. The only things bungie is known for is...selling beta games for full price, making games where your skills dont matter when handing out rewards, and placating to the bad or new players just so they dont have to learn how to get better by practicing. Wait til part 2 comes out. Thats when the real crap begins.

As someone who actually has more kills with his Primary than with a Special I am OK with losing Special Ammo I do however, think that this effort to Encourage Primary Use through ammo availability will backfire. Because NLB, Universal Remote, Invective, Ice Breaker aren't being addressed at the same time. -reducing Special ammo to rebalance Primary vs Special is a shortsighted fix.

I have an idea. Wait for the patch, give it a week and then make and educated post about your griefs.

How about just wait until you play the patch before you speculate about anything? In sure if the numbers are horrible with special ammo they will turn it back on.