[quote]Wtf is wrong with no lands, the only reason people use them is because every other sniper has been facking nerfed to the ground. Sure there is the flinch glitch but how many kills does that get u when maybe 1 out of 4 times you hit someone. I bet everyone that complains about it doesn't no what a sniper is oh sorry they do (matador,warlock melees). JUST BUFF SNIPERS AND PRIMARIES and also make exotics feel exotic again[/quote] I don't know the last time a sniper missed me, let alone shot my body instead of getting a headshot. Even when I'm putting 9 in them with a clever dragon or several more with an auto rifle or 3 shots with a scout, they will ALWAYS headshot me when I have the first few shots on them before they pull the trigger. I actually think I get body shot once or twice for every 50 headshots that happen to me. I think snipers just look at the ground and the broken flinch mechanics just allow them to time shots when they're hit so it's an auto headshot for them. The flinch should literally be random and cause it to go in all directions, randomly every time you're hit.

I think that's your fault. If players never miss snipes against you you're probably being a bit too predictable.

So I shouldn't shoot them first? I thought flinch was implemented to have the advantage once in range? Otherwise I'd just camp and never contest a sniper...

Often when I land a snipe in the situation you described the player I snipe walked into shooting me at head level or they were standing still when shooting so they made for an easy target. Try sliding or jumping into sightlines when you know someone is sniping & strafe while you shoot them.. I get that players have issues playing against snipers but you've got to realize the stronger your opponents get the less snipers you'll see. There's a reason for that.