I ask this because since I started playing Halo,from CE. to Reach, the pvp was the greatest fun I have had in gaming. Hell, it was fun enough to play all the time even with the only rewards being cosmetic armor. How could destiny pvp be such a letdown from Halo if Bungie was behind both? Examples, IB. this time is rift. I absolutely loved assult in halo but rift is the worst game mode I have ever tried, I am sitting this one out completely. Another, how about combined arms? Really? How could the guys that gave us warthogs and scorpions and every other fun and unique vehicle not to mention big team slayer on actual fun playable maps think this is progress? Overall, the only thing I can definitely say is Bungie and that they continue to improve on is the game play mechanics, going back to halo, destiny is better but what good is that when the game is no longer fun? I admit that there is no way to ever even begin a realistic balance for pvp when there is so much variety in Destiny but buffing everything so the ttk is below 1 second even on week weapons takes every bit of fun out of it. If I wanted to play cod, I would just play cod, guardians are supposed to be shielded or at least have armor that would allow you to engage in a fight after taking damage. Not the way it is though, you are dead before you can react or whatever is hitting you causes so much flinch (regardless of weapon type which is retarded ) that you are still dead before being able to really fight back. I really hope destiny 2 has a better approach to pvp, as it is, if the content is as lacking as the first release, pvp is the only reason to stick around and without major changes, it is not worth staying for.