"Shut up everything you're complaining about has already been addressed" *Makes post about thing that has already been "addressed" (or more like ignored with the response we got) by DeeJ* SeemsGood

I would like to see ranked playlists instead of sbmm in crucible to see if that would work(in destiny 2).

There was no point in making this post then, since Deej already covered this topic on the forums...

The problem with the community(not everyone) is that, as a collective group, most of the feedback becomes a mob mentality. Great feedback is always posted on these forums. Yet, it is only the hate and rage that appears in the treading(mostly). In order for anything to truly get the attention of Bungie, you need to get the mob behind you. The question is. How. can you get the mob behind you? Some regulars seem to have a small group following, but, can they make enough momentum to cause true change? Would Bungie truly listen to a polite well worded post? Give true proper answers? I expect the answer is still no. A corporation is still a corporation. As long as the shareholders are making "x" amount on their returns. This communities thoughts are at the bottom of the list. Yes, Bungie has added some items to the game the community asked for. But, it came after months to years of screaming. Not how it should truly work. Well, take care guardian. My time is limited to staying within the fold. Just not worth the grind anymore. May what ever god you believe in bless you and yours.

Alright lets set it all on the table. I am a very composed man, I am aware of the post, "Clever Dragon..." that trended almost a little too well. Now you should also be aware that the post was also posted in an aggressive sense that is out of the criteria you believe I should behave, even if it was satire. There is a huge forest here and not everybody is going look at every tree. You just keep going, trees not even in peripheral view. Does every tree grow to the same height? No. Does one tree get more sun than another? Perhaps. So why did my post get so popular? Why did my tree grow so tall? It comes down to what I put into it. So what if my post wasn't seen? Then it would disappear and that would be the end of it. I attracted a lot of people because I picked a certain subject and worded it in a way that is not really the way I am. People can have a fear of efficacy, uselessness, in a sense. We then as mindful humans give in and let it destort our voice, and in a toneless world such as this, can you truly guess the persons attitude? Not always... However when we all see such change in this "universe", composure is something not well cultivated. We lose our minds in this place, and if not not, then... misinterpretation can begin. Take this for example: I could say this, "I believe the magazine reduction on high RoF auto rifles is having a negative effect on the purpose of a contingent close-quarter weapon. Auto rifles should have the ability of multiple successful encounters as long as the weapon performs well only in its close range zone. I hope a different adjustment is made to offer the weapon type optimal performance but something that makes it contingent should an enemy get too close. I believe range should be affected instead with greater damage at very close range, while keeping reloading contained within a better parameter." Looks good right? Well I ended up saying this: [quote]First, let me say this gun is the ONLY reason I play this game, coolest looking IMO, lots of bullets and it's diversity. I have over 6 of them all with nice rolls(focus fire is my favorite) so this is dedication. I could dismantle every other primary I have and I wouldn't be less happier. Alright good, that aside, why did you ninja nerf the ammo capacity Bungie? (841->799 with ammo upgrade) What, not expecting a 6 month crazy hollow titan stuck on a single weapon to notice that little change? Oh and when you are ready to dig into that 8.5% damage deficiency let me know. However fix the other weapons first, just remember this one. Now if you'll excuse me I am going to watch thrall jump of ledges and land on all fours, that stuff makes me forget my problems.[/quote] Edit: There is anther post of mine of this nature but I cannot find it. It was a good one too. See, I am aware that I not only got off topic but I also showed an emotion that is unsettling to say the least. It is something that becomes a second will after a while. I just chose what would work best for the attention. It will be like this, it always has, as we cannot expect perfection long and late after it was imagined and not gotten. I can only try to be the example, not the exception, but I know I must practice this so I can prove this and hope one day, I can get that single recognition from Deej or anybody else of power. Failure is not something I expect, yet I fail each and every time. I do not want to fail, but I find it hard to resist liking it. This is because I know that at some point I will not fail anymore. Time is always the problem though, and it is the water that grows the seed of desperation, deceit, and sedition. So perfection is something that builds with time, but time also ruins it. Our mind is the best thing we have, but it is our first enemy. We are perfectly flawed, and this is reality.

What about all those people who have put in excellent feedback since year one who have been actively ignored? They don't receive any recognition, instead bungie assume everyone is just a spoiled angry little brat. What, because we don't like that PvP has so many flaws that people are highlighting? Or is it because everyone is pissed off about the lack of content promised to us if we went through with their micro transactions that they've made so much money from? You know what they've done with those funds? Made more events to get us to spend more money with the absolute minimum content required while we still have to pay full price or close to it for a dlc as if we're buying the game itself all over again. But by his don't know why people are upset, nobody says they're doing good so they don't pay attention

[quote]THEY DO LISTEN.[/quote] If you have proof of Bungie actually listening and giving proper consideration to the many, many people in the past who HAVE given highly constructive feedback about what to do about SBMM, I'd simply love to see it. A lot of people would, actually. That'd clear up a ton of misunderstandings.

Numbers make change happen. One persons opinion on something will be overlooked. Anything to keep the mob quiet.

what is interesting is that within all the rants and mad posts there are plenty of constructive feedback posts given to bungie.. if you read the posts enough you will realize that.. they are few and far between and yet there are thousands of them among the rest. smoke an mirrors tactic to shift us off the issue and to then bicker amongst our selves yet some more. takes the pressure off of them. are you really telling me that no constructive feedback has been given to bungie ofver the last 2 years on replacing sbmm to cbmm?

You are no better than the people you're mentioning. Way to go.

The game is beyond broken in many ways, we will complain till we are heard. Deej is a puppet nothing more he has no control at all over the game development. Until the fundamental things In the game are fixed we will not back down.

I see your point and I agree.... but I disagree with deej. I do belive whining as compared to making a point is a fine line because if you touch on a topic others do not like ie: shotguns, hunters, thorn ect... your considered whining and shortly after a phrase follows of "get good" and that is fine. People have opinions and these opinions are usually based on passion..... where I disagree with deej is it's hard to "make a point". In yr 2 bungie has shown themselves to be unreliable with there communication of things they feel will be a backlash from the community, and they have been called out several times for this. My point though is clear cut untampered data.... where is it? In yr 2 after April update we saw charts and graphs related to specials, Primary, and subclass usage. These graphs and data shown progression and proof, but they have since stopped providing such data. This means to me they were dissatisfied with their own changes and once again are not living up to their own self stated transparency. I could be wrong and everything could be good and yet they touted how balanced they were previously and now they no longer express this vision. It would be easy to "make a point" however if we were to use data over passion this forum would fall on silence because that information is not and will not be available until bungie feels arrogant about the results. I personally say everyone keep doing what you are doing fill the forum with passion, ideas, and most importantly accountability but keep it respectful.

The post that Deej responded to wasn't FEEDBACK to BUNGIE at all. But FEEDBACK to the COMMUNITY on BUNGIE'S behalf. At first I was happy to see Deej finally respond to the subject. But after his snarky sticky posting in the Destiny sub forum I'm convinced the only reason he bothered responding is because one of the b.net's community content creators was responding for him. Read Lost's post closely. He's simply iterating what he thinks is going on with SBMM and CBMM and providing his thoughts to the community on what he thinks that means and what he thinks the impacts to changes may be. Read Deej's post closely. He doesn't address SBMM or MM in general AT ALL. He doesn't directly respond to how SBMM and CBMM works or how changes might impact people... which right now the community is seriously craving it. I mean seriously, what a god damn pivot. Just my thoughts.

Maybe we should go on a strike, seems to work in real life to get what you want. [spoiler]Jk[/spoiler]

Multiple hours of play and no Leg Armor! Forced to play PVP for armor. Fine, but make a clear path or put in the skeleton key chests. Heroic Raid RNG should cycle armor. The parts I have beat and I have got 3 chest armors.

[quote]They do listen.[/quote] You mean like the wish list? Lol

The only thing they listen to is the sound of a wallet opening.

Nah, acting like the juveniles they are works best, loading all kinds of swears and Internet tough guy posturing while making references that make most grown people cringe at the stupidity of them. That's how you get attention and points across.... I mean, crap, it worked in the US presidential election, so why not here?