This is literally the worst possible response. First off if you would have read the op post, his suggestion is that any primary gun or maybe only exotic primaries would be able to have burn so plenty of people would be using different burn guns. Therefore your argument is automatically invalidated. People also used those guns because they were good for that specific nightfall now we're stuck using guns that suck for those night falls. Have fun taking out shields on 5 separate witches by switching back and forth between your special and primary for the 100th time in the same room because bungie and you want me to have the most tedious time possible to do anything even tho it's the 150th time I do this strike... If I'm using fatebringer it's because I beat the raid. If I beat the raid I don't need nightfall rewards, SIMPLE AS THAT. I do it for fun and elemental primaries are fun. But ya we should all be happy that everyone is stuck using the same vendor weapon smh. Raid guns are nothing but infusion fodder now and that's the real -blam!-in crime. People cry when everyone is using fatebringer(A RAID WEAPON, A WEAPON EVERYONE SHOULD WANTTT TO BE USING) but no one bats an eye when literally everyone is using hung jury, or when everyone was using doctrine. Elemental primaries are an INTEGRAL part of the game and I for one am extremely displeased that it looks like they not coming back. If I'm doing a strike for the 150th time I don't want to feel like I'm just as weak as when I did it the first time while using raid primaries, I beat the raid for these weapons for Christ sake. without elemental primaries you never feel strong or that your getting stronger, lower level strikes don't get "easier" until you wayy out level them due to damage scaling. Ps: I'm not taking my anger out directly on you just your argument of only having 3 weapons to use(even though there way more than what you said considering I loved using atheons epilogue during nightfalls) Tldr; no, having no elemental primaries is NOT good. And elemental primaries are most definitely NOT broken or OP so just -blam!-ing bring them back

Or people can just get good without primary burns. It's not hard.

I said tedious not hard....it's about the whole game becoming tedious and boring once you start raiding because none of the rewards are worth it anymore. Should I really be raiding so that I can infuse the raid weapons into my hung jury? Disgusting IMO. And your allowed to have an opinion I don't agree with, I just personally can't see how people wouldn't want the elemental weapons back.

Because it makes the game to easy. Lots of people are solo players who like a challenge. I mean if you want to feel powerful then just play a lower level strike playlist. Plus you do have special and heavy with burns. how you would change things if primary burns came back? What do you suggest so it's still a challenge for the people?

Umm no if YOU want a challenge then YOU don't use elemental primaries lol.they shouldn't be removed from the game so some "solo" players can have a challenge when doing the nightfall strike they've done 100 times before. The game doesn't become too easy because of elemental primaries. It's because you've beaten this exact strike before and you know what your doing and you a high ass level that's why it's too easy also you beat the freakin raid the nightfall is going to be easy no matter what...just make it fun again by reintroducing elemental primaries. Anyways I can see this argument isn't going anywhere since IMHO your logic is flawed. If you want a challenge you don't NEED to equip elemental primaries. Also with that logic they can just remove burns on specials so that people use heavy machine guns or rockets to break shields and continue with your special or primary after. Why not it's a good challenge no? The logic is just flawed to me Another tldr: there's nothing to address if you want a challenge and feel that electable primaries don't give you a challenge don't use them..simple. Same solution a gally

No your logic is flawed. You want it as easy as possible because you must clearly struggle. There's not one good reason for elemental primaries to return. Even in weekly strikes and nightfall every enemy is a one hit kill if it's a critical hit. Unless it's a yellow or as a shield. Even then snipers and shotguns easily sort it out. Plus if small arms modifier is on then it kind of makes up for elemental damage you'd have from a primary.

My logic is not flawed man. No elemental primaries don't 1 shot majors lol and no I DEFINITALY don't need help. I've been playing since beta and without looking at your stats I can almost guarantee that I have OVERALL more hours, more nightfall complete and more raid completions than you(all of this without playing basically since ttk dropped) I love this game I don't need help I just want it to be fun again. If you want a challenge don't equip the gun simple no need to remove it from the game. Also in case you didn't know things are supposed to get easier as you get stronger beating the raid means level 320 strikes SHOULD BE A CAKEWALKS. No matter what no questions asked I don't even mind that they level cap me but don't make lvl 20 strikes and nightfalls feel the same tedious way because they refuse to reintroduce elemental primaries so that "solo players"(not who the game is intended for BTW) can have the same challenge they would have by simply not equipping the gun. Seriously i can't believe I even have to argue this. You haven't made a single point that actually supports no elemental primaries. We can just agree to disagree or keep doing this all day since we have such vastly different opinions..your call

Majors are yellow bars. Read what I put all enemies are one shot unless they're yellow bars or have Shields. Also go look at the stats or I will. Elemental primaries are for scrubs. If you want feel powerful then play the 320 strike playlist. Heroic is 350 and nightfall is 360. Bet you haven't beat the new raid yet.

Like collosi? Those are red bars.

Buddy again you haven't given a single reason...I can one shot 90% of enemies with my hung jury anyways...also no I'm not a scrub just because you can't logically find a reason to not put elemental primaries back in. have good day man hopefully they do bring them back. I would love to see the community be happy again instead of being selfish like yourself and only caring about your little solo challenges you do for yourself good luck with those lol Ps: even without beating this new raid I'll still have more overall raid completions than you will for the next year. Let's not even get to when I start demolishing this new raid. Also stop using the word scrub it makes you seem 15. People like you make the game boring and tedious hopefully bungie learned from their past mistakes. There is a reason more people left during the ttk than any other expansion. And elemental primaries and the tediousness of doing the same thing 100 times gets to people

Oh by the way you're behind on raid completions

Oh what a surprise. Nothing to say about stats lol. Dude I don't need elemental primary because I'm good enough without. If you want feel powerful I suggest trying 320 strike playlist. It's you who sounds like a 15 year old because you're crying over something what the game the easy.

Sure thing man. I've given you a bunch of reasons and you gave me 0...what stats you talking about? I'm happy you like that the game does not reward you for beating the raid by giving you good weapons, but most people aren't happy. Just keep calling everyone a scrub that doesn't agree with you, it honestly doesn't bother me. Keep infusing your raid weapons into your vendor weapon you bought day 1 of the doc and keep using it. If it was up to you gally wouldn't be back lol Also please stop saying to do 320 strikes I have more nightfall completions than you...I solo them I've solod Croat I've done it all in this game I'm stating my opinion on elemental primaries and your only complaint against them is that you like to do solo challenges so no body should get elemental primaries. Have good day man

Haha you've completed just over 1000 strikes. Not all nightfall I've done over 3000 strikes. Not all nightfalls but I do my 3 a week. Solo crotas end is easy. It's only level 33 on hard and can be done in about 30mintues. To solo it you need to cheese the bridge so no credit for that. I even 2 man vog but had to use a self res warlock. You've give me no reason for elemental burns to return apart from making it easy. He's one for you. If they return the enemies in nightfalls need go up by at least 10 light levels

I wouldn't mind the nightfall becoming harder just to reintroduce the elemental primaries, he'll bring it up 20 light. I just want them back because it feels like I want to grind the raid to get these specific weapons, and I'll reiterate, no I don't want them to make it easier I want them to make it less tedious. I'll give my example again, if their are 5 witches in the room you have to swap between your primary and secondary 5 times just to take them out even tho they are 20 levels lower than you. I don't struggle with that it's easy but it's not the true point.its not fun. I'll say it again I do believe. The reasons you want to keep elementals out is selfish but I will agree that maybe raising the light level of the nightfall to make use of the elemental primaries makes sense. Also don't forget tho if you have an elemental primary the nightfall loot is garbage to you and will drop at much lower light than you are. The nightfall is meant to be tedious when levelling up but once you out level it by 10 or 20 it shouldn't be just as tedious as day 1 and for now that's how it is also wow 3000 strikes that's a lot lol. So you've obviously played way more than me and I have thousands of hours that's actually crazy. Also I have also 2 manned vog from beginning to end and both of those (solo Crota and 2 man vog) were done at appropriate light levels before new dlc came out. I know all about challenges I'm just entirely convinced that elemental primaries are fun

Or bungie could bring them back because they are more fun

And put nightfalls back to year one? Everyone dies you return to orbit. I mean burns are not even needed at the moment. They'd make the game far to easy unless they make the strikes harder.

It's bungie's fault for not making more of them and more viable ones.

No matter how viable a weapon was, if it was arc burn you would need to use fatebringer or fangs etc.