The Thorn is basically a slow firing, round piercing, and poison bullets Last Word. I believe it should have an impact 70% - 80% Thorn should also have the range of a HawkMoon, the fire rate is fine and so is the stability. The poison rounds also suck I think it should have a 5% buff making it do 3 DoT for 5 seconds. Thorn should do 2 headshot and 1 body shot to kill a guardian thats as much as last word but with better range and the almost like a HawkMoon. After this buff Thorn should be almost as good as HawkMoon but better than Last Word (Go complain about HawkMoon or Last Word if you don't think this is right HawkMoon can 2 shot you in the head and snipe you from a distance same with Last Word)
Don't start whining or complaining then go else where and RANT/complain
Edit 1: Poison bullets doing 3 DoT might be to much so Idk depends what happends
Edit 2: Lol Thorn Gave me PTSD when it was Nerfed for like the 3rd time lol and yes I'm a Year 1 Vet.
Edit 3: yeah 2 DoT is good I guess
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Thorn actually takes skill to use now... say it ain't so
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13 RespuestasOh shut the -blam!- up, thorn is old and go find some of the new exotics. Quit relying on your year one exotics to save your ass in crucible...
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2 RespuestasJust no.. And hawkmoon is not better than the last word.
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4 RespuestasWhat would have been amazing if people never complained about any weapon in the first place, just because you don't like dying from it "So much". Year one I lost while using and to thorn and other weapons. Everyone that was nerfed should be brought back to its original stats. You all just make the game less enjoyable.
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3 RespuestasAbsolutely not. If Thorn is buffed even a little bit, it will go right back to being the only weapon anyone uses in the Crucible. I'd be fine with it being completely redesigned and made good in other ways, but it does not need to be any stronger in its current state. From what I can tell you want Thorn to have all the benefits of both Hawkmoon and TLW and none of the drawbacks. It's a fast killing weapon that keeps your target's health from recovering for significantly longer than normal and lets you track them through walls. It does something that no other gun does, which is good enough. It does not need to be downright better than every other gun. And if you're not prepared for people to disagree with you, don't post on the forums.
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10 RespuestasNO!!! Thorn should have been left retired.
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2 RespuestasEditado por Atomic: 9/21/2016 3:28:38 AMNo I knew this was going to happen this is exactly why I didn't want thorn to return
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1 RespuestaIf your a year on "vet" you should no that thorn was out of control it was the biggest crutch weapon ever.
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1 RespuestaOne of the stupidest things anyone could ever do is defend the thorn. You don't know shit about good weapons, and you don't know shit about why 99.9% of the destiny fan base shun people who use the thorn.
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No thanks I don't want a crucible full of thorns again
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Everybody holds such a grudge against it that it'll never actually get buffed, but it really does need it. Maybe make it like the pre-buff Year 1 version?
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4 Respuestasno. Thorn was hell in year 1. Let it die.
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3 RespuestasI just wish people hadn't broken my first exotic... thing was my only primary used for months until the epidemic (which was caused by 3 rounds being added to the thorn...no other real buffs were made according to patchnotes). They could make it have 6 rounds again and buff the rest back up to y1 standard. Apparently the ammo made it op.
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It doesn't need a buff. It already has one of the most useful tools in Destiny: DoT. Regardless of the damage it still keeps a Guardian's shield down and shows you where they are. The DoT wasn't meant to kill nor should it ever have.
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Thorn isn't a slow firing Hand Cannon. It has the same fire rate as TLW.
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If they remove DoT, I think it may finally be balanced.
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9 Respuestashawkmoon can not 2 shot to the head and neither can the last word, you are the one who needs to stop complaining,
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2 Respuestasin other words, Tiny Tim wants his crutch back....
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23 RespuestasHow this post reads: Cries about Thorn not being OP Ask no one to reply if they don't agree
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11 RespuestasIt does 79 and you want 3 dot for 5 seconds that 15 damage and making thorn do 94 damage per shot!!! With agrees sice ballistics it can 2 shot and it shoots faster than hawkmoon. Please think before you postc
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Thorn should be like it was pre-buff in year 1: Six round cylinder, horrendous recoil, terrible reload speed, and slow handling. Give it the same damage it had after the buff, and you'll have a powerful primary that is highly dependent on the user's accuracy and recoil management.
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2 RespuestasEditado por reegeee: 9/20/2016 11:47:28 PMThey had it right first time with thorn. It was a perfectly fair gun with 6 rounds and a slow reload but people complained because it was fairly hard to get so they expected something OP. It got buffed to a ridiculous level and now it's just like a watered down version of the OP gun. Just restore it to original.
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You mean the original very bad thorn at launch? I remember when I got it, it sucked! Then they buffed it along side red death bad juju and ect before HoW (may be wrong on date) So if you want original, by all means go right ahead, personally I could care less about it. I countered it in Y1 trials, so I doubt I couldn't counter it again if they buffed it.
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1 RespuestaI tested it. It's fine as it is right now. Before it gets nerfed again.
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Signed.
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