With the recent major patch, bungie has changed the touch of malice so that it removes the blessing of light buff from the player if used together. Their reason for doing this was they said that they wanted the weapon to be used for KF only.
Now, this is fine and dandy and all, but bungie missed a few marks with this one. Here is why.
1. The weapon, without its final round perk, is pretty lackluster.
Due to its small magazine of 11 bullets, and damaging aspect of the repeatable final round, the gun tends to lose practicality when it comes to dishing out damage while also avoiding damage. Just about any primary in the game will do more for you in terms of survivability (something that in hard mode raids comes before anything else)
2. They forgot about flame shield, force barrier, and armor of light.
While two of these require a melee charge, the other one is simply a more stationary, more effective variant of blessing of light. And while it is harder to use, it can still serve the same purpose.
3. The actual time in the raid that you spend using the gun with an invulnerability buff.
Altogether, you use it for 2 bosses, out of 4 in the raid. Out of 5 total encounters.
For the sisters, you have the invulnerability for a grand total of at most, 80 seconds, assuming your runner is a badass and can do the loop in 20 seconds. And you can spend 30 seconds dpsing each sister. That's still a good portion of the fight without the protection.
For oryx, you get a bit more time, about 45 seconds of invulnerability each round, but you only really benefit from having the weapon during that brief moment of about 5 seconds after oryx slams his fist and his chest opens up. Repeat that 4-5 times and the touch of malice only really shines in this fight for about 40-75 seconds altogether.
Out of a 10 minute fight or so.
It gets worse, compared to the time spent in the raid, which can take as few as 45 minutes, or more realistically, about 2 hours for pretty much every group I've ever been in. And you see that the roughly 2-3 minutes of usefulness that ToM gives its pretty heavily outweighed.
4. The creativity and skill required to "bubble dance"
Going a bit off from the other three we have the argument that using the touch of malice with a blessing of light buff requires a fair amount of skill, as it requires simultaneously keeping an eye on your health, aiming at a precision target, knowing where you are and where the bubble is, avoiding weapon fire, and keeping an eye on your surroundings.
Compare this to when you have the invulnerability, where you only have to worry about aiming, and you can see that there is a fairly large skill requirement gap between the two situations.
Why does this even matter?
Some game developers believe that while some strategies developed by players may allow one to complete a task faster or easier than others, the general level of skill and inventiveness involved in doing so, outweighs the original design path for an event or encounter.
In short, bungie's claim of making the weapon a KF only weapon, was pretty much BS when you don't even need the gun for 10% of the raid.
Now this wouldn't be soo bad if we could swap primary weapons on the fly instead of spending 8-10 seconds in our inventory, but that's a case for another day.
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1 RespuestaHonestly, it's way more fun having the two titans in the middle use Sleeper Simulant. It -blam!-ing wrecks everything in its path. Sleeper is such a fun gun to use.
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1 RespuestaDo you remember before ttk they needed the ghorn and buffed the necro literally 5 days before the expansion hit which would make the weapons obsolete... Bunghole is retarded and shit like this makes me think they have no idea wtf they are doing
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1 RespuestaI never like the weapon, but maybe something could make it better. Perhaps reduce the damage taken from its damage buff to the user? Just a thought.
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Two titans in center at Oryx using Weapons and Blessing with Armamentarium spec'd for sniper ammo along with Eirenes will kill ogres far faster than the same two titans and bubbles both using Touch.
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I don't see what's so broken or wrong with it.
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2 RespuestasEditado por BRAX7ON 117: 9/16/2016 5:23:01 PMYou are more concerned about using it in PVP. You obviously do not care about its effectiveness in the Kings fall raid. You made this post for purely selfish reasons. I, for one, am extremely happy that they have taken away the ability to abuse this. If it means not being able to use it in Kings fall then so be it.
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It would be too overpowering in the new raid. If you still use the ToM as a crutch, then bungie should nerf you.
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I'm sure we'll all understand why they changed it when the new raid launches in a week.
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6 RespuestasThis is a situational weapon plain and simple. It has two purposes in the raid. Daughters and relic runner for oryx. The other strategies employed by guardians is essentially a cheese. This weapon is forged with pieces of pure evil where the only true protection is a shield of pure evil like the vessel's and the daughters. One would be foolish to think that a single guardian's shield would provide the needed protection from a weapon of pure evil. So now you cannot just pop a bubble and completely wreck everything, now you actually have to fight the fight, please stop complaining about a cheese that Bungie fixed just before the raid becomes irrelevant. At least they gave us all time to beat the hard mode with that cheese for months.
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3 RespuestasWho cares. You only use the gun like -1,000,000% of the game.
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Yeah all that work for a trash weapon. Its worse than necrochasm year one
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4 RespuestasTl;tr ToM = exotic shard
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1 RespuestaI understand where you're coming from but if the Malice nerf keeps the new raid challenging rather than taking in six Titans and ToM, I'm okay with it. I mean lets be honest anyway. Destiny 2 will probably be a total reset so all these exotics (minus the ones they bring forward) will be dead and gone anyway. I'm sure that will cause riots here on the forum but I think everyone knows it's coming and I personally welcome it.
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1 RespuestaEverything you cite is all focused on old content. It could break the Wrath of the Machine... just sayin.
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1 RespuestaEditado por OurWildebeest: 9/16/2016 5:15:45 PMIt was uncalled for. But oh well. I've pretty much stopped doing KF anyway because there is nothing worth getting anymore, and lfg team quality nosedived a few months ago. Here is 75% of lfg posts now: "been stuck on Oryx for 37 hours. Message for invite. Must be experienced" and I look and they have 2 completions. Good luck! Think I'll do my Shaxx bounties instead.
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4 RespuestasEditado por Cake-6: 9/16/2016 5:17:12 PMCould possibly be because they wanted to stop people in lfgs from demanding weapons The combo might've been abused in wrath of the machine [spoiler]that doesn't mean people going to stop demanding certain weapons :p WoTM light 400 no skrubs im at death zamboni have mic, and young wolf's howl and know what to do[/spoiler]
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Could possibly be they wanted to stop people in lfgs from demanding weapons The combo might be abused in wrath of the machine [spoiler]that doesn't mean people going to stop demanding certain weapons :p WoTM light 400 no skrubs im at death zamboni[/spoiler]
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1 RespuestaThere are other weapons that can do the job as well as Touch of malice. Although it is very preferred. Touch of malice is NOT REQUIRED in King's Fall. I can get the job done with a Zhalo or Bad juju, even a hawkmoon or Suros Regime.
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2 RespuestasMy thoughts are that perhaps it could be used in conjunction with bubble and other buffs to power down a new boss in the new raid way too fast and so they nerfed it in this way.
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3 RespuestasBungie hates raid exotics. See the Vex "damage reduced by 49%" Mythoclast, and the Necrochasm. The Mythoclast has been unable to shoot straight for over a year. I don't like it either, but we should just be glad the Malice still works at all.
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1 RespuestaCrap, I used this gun a lot for PvP and I depend on its perk to be successful. Now that they removed it, I'm going to get slaughter.
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I heard it was bcus they found some sort of exploit in the new raid
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1 RespuestaOnly thing our clan changed in the raid was using weapons instead of blessing of light. Everything else we do is same as always.
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14 RespuestasNever seen anyone who cares about a useless raid gun this much. I stopped after your first two lines of cry baby nonsense.
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Never used ToM for raiding. The issue doesnt even bother me ;)
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4 RespuestasJokes on you Bungie, I'll use my Sunsinger with Radiant Skin and my Aposteosis Veil helmet