Being so reliant on mechanics it just gets boring in my opinion (and many others I play with). Needing everyone to basically have a flawless run each encounter creates too much anxiety to not be "that guy" and people get defensive and/or nervous and start playing bad. Hive-related. BoS was very intriguing lore, but before I even knew what the raid would entail, I decided I more than likely wouldn't like it as I was completely nauseated by the introduction of more hive-themed gear. After multiple runs, which failed after people would leave for reasons, decided it definitely wasn't worth my time, especially after it became possible to max out playing however we LIKED. I [i]might[/i] have enjoyed if my clan and other friends I enjoyed playing with hadn't all abandoned the game. Getting into a group, nailing my part time and time again while one or two other people would rage at those struggling or even just messing up once, leading to sitting idle waiting on new players to join, many of whom would leave after one wipe while trying to develop team chemistry, or when their normal group finally got online just became overwhelmingly frustrating. I'm in my 4th clan since Destiny, 2nd since TTK and again, there's only a couple of us who even play at this point. All that said, I can't wait to start raiding again after RoI, and have at least one other friend hoping to get a group to go on a blind run of Wrath of the Machine. Sounds like a raid that's going to be more suited to my preferences. Don't get me wrong - I don't mind a jump puzzle here or there (have actually [i][b]never[/b][/i] died doing a jump puzzle since my very first run through VoG) or mechanics sprinkled throughout, but I definitely prefer to just shoot and space magic shit to death when playing. I play to have fun, not mix brain puzzles reliant on timing with other people's actions, but I know others really enjoy that.