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9/14/2016 10:16:33 AM
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Read the actual comments.
You have to start somewhere when placing groups together
That's a given
He CLEARLY states that if it can't find a good CONNECTION it widens the net to find you one.
Which means you get paired with crap players.
Now if it was TRUE sbmm that as a process would NOT happen would it.
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By your logic it's not "true" CBMM either.
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It's clearly skewed more towards connection matching making than skill the evidence is there in black and white. They prioritise connection. I said I want priority skill. Your making an argument because your wrong and now your nitpicking.
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Editado por Elitespear: 9/14/2016 10:26:09 AMRight so: I called it Skill based matchmaking, you called it connection based matchmaking and then you posted a link literally confirming that matchmaking prioritises skill first and connection afterwards. Apparently taking connection into consideration means it's not "true SBMM". Yet I'm nit picking when I point out that it isn't "true CBMM" using your own logic and argument. I'm beginning to think you're not as intelligent as you're trying to be. Oh also, the obligatory *you're
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Now you're insulting my intelligence because I simply called you out on your wrong comment? Cool story. This is how based on his comments I see the system working in its current form. Player pool is segregated into groupings let's say for arguments sake this Elo 800-1200 1200-1600 And so on. Fine that is an element of skill groupings. That we can agree on. Except this grouping is not the matchmakings priority. It's priority as stated is to find best connection regardless of the actual skill. And so, as a result the range to find players ends up like Elo 1000-1600 1600-2200 Completely fictitious figures given. But as a result you get players of all sorts of skill levels pulled together producing widely inconsistent matches where they are stomped. This is what I see. Now if the priority was SBMM then the groupings should be tighter and not widen to find some one who might have a awesome super sauce connection. I'm saying I want the skill ranges to have more emphasis I want it to prioritise the selection based on what ever combat rating they use. Now if that is not your interpretation of the current matchmaking settings based on the information provided then you explain exactly how interpret that information.
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Editado por Elitespear: 9/14/2016 10:48:26 AMTL;DR You're telling me I'm wrong because of your opinion on what you think the definition of SBMM is. While your own argument also defines your statement that it is CBMM, as incorrect. You also used an explanation of how SBMM works to try and reinforce your point. Which you literally made up based on your opinion of it. Top kek. FYI, I didn't fabricate an argument. I made a statement, then you decided you wanted to argue that my statement was wrong. That would make you responsible for the argument existing. Hence it was you that "fabricated it".
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I stand by my opinion that your statement is indeed wrong. I have provided a source which clearly explains connection is favoured over skill in the matchmaking process. You continue to proceed with nonsense trying to make me look like I'm the idiot. If your going to twist the truth presented to you to fit your view that the current matchmaking system is sbmm then fine. I can clearly see it isn't. I even said that the information I provided in my last post was fictitious figures based on my interpretation of how the matchmaking system is working, favouring connection over skill. I think we are done here.
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Editado por Elitespear: 9/14/2016 11:15:07 AM[quote]I stand by my opinion that your statement is indeed wrong. I have provided a source which clearly explains connection is favoured over skill in the matchmaking process. You continue to proceed with nonsense trying to make me look like I'm the idiot. If your going to twist the truth presented to you to fit your view that the current matchmaking system is sbmm then fine. I can clearly see it isn't. I even said that the information I provided in my last post was fictitious figures based on my interpretation of how the matchmaking system is working, favouring connection over skill. I think we are done here.[/quote] So, the only factual evidence existing in your argument is the quote stating that skill is the inital factor matchmaking considers, but I'm wrong for calling it SBMM and you're right for calling it CBMM because that's your opinion. Well I'm glad we cleared it all up. I'm sure a spectator to this fascinating exchange will be able to figure out their own opinions on it.
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Once again your clinging to an opening sentence whilst not acknowleging the entire quote in full. I've even acknowledged that to form a base pool it looks at some form of combat rating. That's where it ends. The system disregards the initial groupings if the connections available do not meet the predetermined requirements set by bungie. Favouring connection over skill, grouping together players of any skill level to meet what ever these settings are they use to form a "quality connection match" There is an element of both sbmm and cbmm in effect. The mechanics AS STATED favour connection over skill when finalising a group of people for a match. Therefore I am of the opinion that this matchmaking is connection based matchmaking as it's the dominant driver in the process. Your saying because at the very start it looks at a skill of some description. It automatically makes it sbmm disregarding the actual end result of the matchmaking system.
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Editado por Elitespear: 9/14/2016 11:26:43 AMYou realise you're arguing with me using matchmaking mechanics [u]you have made up[/u].
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Editado por EasyDread: 9/14/2016 11:57:03 AMI havnt though have I. It's there in the damn quote plain as day. Edit**** I have assumed behind the scenes how it works yes absolutely Infact I even say that. I admitted that. But I am basing off the quotes direct from bungie themselves. With the opening line from them clearly saying "Destiny MM doesn't favour skill" If I am embarrassing myself so friggen what I don't particularly care. I think I have been civil and provided a half decent rationale as to why I think what I think. Fine if you don't agree then we shall carry on our separate ways.
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Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
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That's nice and productive. Any more to add whilst your at it?
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Sure, good morning and have a nice day. Ok I'm done now.
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Editado por Elitespear: 9/14/2016 11:36:12 AMNo, your key factors toward the matchmaking process are things [u]you have assumed[/u]. Why aren't you getting this? You've explained the mechanics of how the matchmaking system works, when you don't actually know how it works. It's literally all based on your interpretation of what someone said in an interview and based off all that, you're telling me that I'm wrong. I know the hole you've dug for yourself is deep, but for the love of god stop digging and just get some ladders.
