Bungie doesn't use elo. It's a third party metric

Then you get no rewards for going to the lighthouse. If your gonna have an easy route then you should get some sort of degrading emblem.

To anyone that will look at my profile and use my stats as a "counterargument", comment something along the line of "Git Gud," "Salt...", Some form of insult, or any typically toxic response then don't read this. It not only makes you look (more of) a donkeys' behind, and also confirms what i am saying below as true, but it just wastes time as that brings nothing to the table. Open criticism on intellectual level is welcomed, anything else will just be ignored. I don't play trials anymore, pointlessly getting steamrolled by a toxic community isn't my idea of fun. Also the friend that got me into destiny is currently at AIT so that also put a hamper on my willingness to try for 9-0. Wasn't too bad, think I was like silver ELO with a decent kd , and never went to lighthouse. I think the best we got was like 6-0 or 7-0, but then you start getting paired against people with red bars, or someone would have some sort of problem, or the we would quickly be completely 5-0ed by teams (who we fought previously on other cards) for the 3rd time. Even though I no longer play trials I would like to see some sort of change to trials. Suppose to get tougher along the way, I understand and welcome that, and I know that sometimes you just run into the better team that match. Again welcomed. Well fought out battles that had both sides giving it their all to claim that yellow circle for the match, the whole idea and spirit behind the original trials. But now it's just toxicity upon toxicity upon toxicity, not good at all. The current community in trials is way to toxic, for the most part, they never stop to actually put aside their feelings and actually consider other people. It's always "Oh your KD/Oh your ELO/ Oh your profile says "your shit' and so your opinion doesn't matter" "Git Gud Scrub " or some variant of insult and comment about salt it's self. You can go to any post about Trials and you can see for yourself, it's really bad, a lot of hostility. They provide no intellectual argument, result to closing people off just due to them "being a casual" or "not having good ELO/KD," and overall just wish to stay stagnant in their pile of toxic soup. I've actually been able to have a few conversations with these people from time to time, after getting past the whole "Git Gud you salty Scrub" and the main thing I hear for them is that It wasn't easy for them, or like this said idea, for them so it shouldn't be like it for others. Correct me if I'm wrong, but games are suppose to evolve over time to become better and better versions of themselves. Stagnation in anything is not a good thing, unless you absolutely perfected the thing but that's impossible as every system has some sort of flaw and room for improvement. I can go to any other game I have that has a PvP aspect, or is focused on PvP, and they have much better systems for PvP for competitive and grow constantly. Smite, LoL, Battleborn, Overwatch, Old games like w101, CoR, Aion, etc... Each of these games tried to improve their PvP alongside having, at least, an equally bad system or better system. Take Overwatch and look how much better their competitive PvP experience is in comparison to Trials, I know each is completely different but just do it, it hasn't even been out for half of destiny's lifespan and it's already substantially better. And it's still making improvements. No one can improve and no one can get better if people who get 50 cards done before breakfast fight someone who hasn't even been to the lighthouse once. Yes it should be a challenge for everyone, but the thing with challenges is that challenges are challenging...yet winnable. Dunking on team's 5-0 left and right isn't a challenge for the 5 side and the 0 side has 0% chance of getting better or learning. Something needs to change so both low end players and high end players can both go to the lighthouse while having challenging fights that are actually winnable. I'm not sure what, but something needs to happen.

my solution was i just quit trials. lol. i was never going flawless and grew tired of spending two hours to get boots in a package.

Tbh, I like playing against players who are better than me in trials, I enjoy the challenge. Last week I won 5-4 against Gernader Jake in trials, and it was a very fun match. He hit a triple kill on us though ;-;

Good luck the only people who will reply to this are the elitist flawless junkies giveing you shit because they have nothing eles to do.

Everyone who is eliminated from TOO should get the following three things: 1. Some salt added to your inventory that you can rub into your wounds. 2. Once the salt is rubbed in, you get a "Salty Dog" emblem showing a dog marking his territory on the side of the Lighthouse. 3. A free trip to the mysterious Outhouse. When you go into the Outhouse, you see only a toilet that faces the outer wall of the Lighthouse. If you sit on the toilet, a small window appears that lets you see into the Lighthouse as the winners open the chest that you will never get. A few moments later, Shaxx says "Oh my! Is that the smell of defeat?"

I've also run into those using lag switches trying to run flawless and cheating

To all you complaining about ToO: I have never been to the lighthouse. Not good enough. So i do not deserve it. You wanna go to the lighthouse? Practice and get better. Would you go to the olympics and run 42 km for Gold? No, and you would not complain. You perhaps would run a 5 Mile Race in your hometown. And you would not complain not to be able to stand where the top athlets are standing and you would not complain that they get a medal. Even if you paid for Gym membership. To those who do not understand what I am saying: Do not complain about not going to the lighthouse (olympics). Get better. Use Alternative game modes (Home Town Race). Do not complain about Gear (medals). Wanna See the lighthouse? Youtube. Sorry for my rude words, but to me it seems people want to get things the easy way. This is unfair to those that are that good and go to the lighthouse. Stop complaining about carries. Would you like to Face 3 top players instead of One who is carrying 2 people who are not that good? No, cos you would have less Chance to Win. If you so or so have no Chance, you are just not good enough. Cu in the crucible...

You do realise that the fawless charge people will just set up new accounts so they can have a easy time of it should be done if they gone fawless once per weekend they get put into the elite stage.

I guess in the same way players get normal and heroic raid gear, not being flawless but completing a passage could take you to a smaller chest with the normal trials gear?

This will make going flawless progressively harder for better players though. I don't think that's fair. I think, if anything is done, the idea of putting people in the "Big Kids Pool" after going flawless once in a week, and letting them go flawless AGAIN there, is a better idea.

Osiris is calling you guardian... Improve your skill... Stomp the competition

Trials is not for "average players." It's for top tier PvP players. And yes, I am an average player. I've never played ToO; not even once.

>average >trials Pick one and only one.

Bump the hell out of this! This is the one thing that stops me from playing trials.