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8/26/2016 8:05:21 AM
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When humans were young, going back thousands of years to the evolution of the Neanderthal, we had been looking to the sky and understanding the world for a long time. We still knew nothing. The sun set and rose, we called this a day. When the sun was up, we could work, we could survive. When the sun set, the darkness came and we couldn't see, there were things in the dark we were afraid of - however, we look to the sky, and see the stars. The stars were wonderful, and we saw shape that we eventually called the Zodiac.
The year draws on and the sun lowers in the sky, to early humanity. The sun, is dying. The sun lowers and lowers until the 21st of December. This is under a star sign of the northern crux, or cross. The sun 'dies on the cross', and stays there for 3 days with no visible signs of movement. Then, on the 25th of December, it rises again. It is born again. The sun rises in the sky more and more as the year goes until the highest point in the sky and we celebrate this as the crops returning and great wealth to come.
Sound familiar to anyone? Sounds like all religions to me.
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Uh, you were close, but the sun didn't die on a cross. The Son died on a cross.
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The early humans worshipped the Sun as the Son of God. It's the same thing to early humanity, so they both die on the cross, it's the sun in the middle of the Zodiac and there are 12 Zodiac signs, and 12 disciples. That's where we get the 12 disciples from.
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Uhhhh, I don't think. I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't model his disciples after the zodiac.
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Not just Jesus, plenty of other messiahs too. I mean. The story I told was as true to the ancient messiahs Horus/Ra of the Egyptians as it is for Jesus. The story of Jesus is more astrological than it is theological.
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We're talking about different messiahs. By messiah, you mean literal savior of a people. By Messiah, I mean savior of the world from their sins. And Jesus actually has nothing to do with astrology, that's just a secular interpretation trying to skew the truth.
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No, astrology is a science. And when I say Messiah I mean the multiple lambs of God there have been through the ages. In fact, Christianities god lasts until the era of Aquarius. It's the era of Pisces at the moment. The Bible states this as fact, you wanna go against the Bible? Your Bible literally goes out of date in the next 200 years.
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Editado por JesusDied4uBro: 8/26/2016 1:46:57 PMHaha, I don't where you're getting this rubbish. Yeah, uh, give me a reference where it says this in the Bible.
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Editado por SREDISKRAD: 8/26/2016 1:54:45 PM[url=http://biblehub.com/matthew/28-20.htm]Matthew, 28:20[/url] "And I will be with you to the end of the age." The age being the age of Pisces, which, depending on who you go by. Has passed or has yet to pass. The Mayans had it end 21 December '12 and that was a fun night XD. Some have it end in 2150 some 2645, either way, your Bibles timeline is very quickly reaching its end. It's the age of Aquarius now, it's time for people to move on. Your book is old even to the stars it was wrote on.
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Yeah, and I like how "Pisces" isn't anywhere in the actual verse. I don't know who told you that that's what that meant, but I guarantee you they were making a heck of an extrapolation. There's nothing in the Bible that suggests that meaning. Even my commentary doesn't even say anything about that. And I have quite a bit of faith that the Bible will still be accurate when it's stars "go out of date." Haha.
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Also, you wanna know where your Christian fish comes from? Google Virgo.
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Editado por SREDISKRAD: 8/26/2016 2:08:35 PMLuke 22:10 "He replied, "As you enter the city, a man carrying a jug of water will meet you. Follow him into the house he enters." Man carrying jug of water is Aquarius. Seems fishy yeah? Go Google Pisces, it's that fish you call the Christian symbol. I mean, feeding 5000 people with [i]two fish[/i] and five loaves of bread? Hmm, lots of connection to Pisces in the Bible and then Jesus telling you to follow Aquarius? Sounds like you're unsure of your own bible. Of you study English you can draw these conclusions of connotation and imagery in writing. The Bible is a well written story (apart from all the contradictions), and I'll allow it to be a story that was supposed to teach ethics, but I don't worship Dr Seuss now do I?
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Haha, you're making way too many extrapolations the Bible never talks about. Just cause he's carrying water doesn't mean he's Aquarius. Maybe he's just...ya know, carrying water. And as for Pisces, oh heaven forbid the Bible mentions fish, it has to have something to do with the zodiac! 😑 Maybe there were actually just two fish...
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So why is there the Christian fish in the symbol for Virgo? Just out of curiosity. So, lemme guess, you won't take science to be fact because it's all theory? News flash, gravity is a theory and is actually something we're still trying to prove. Science isn't a series of proving things and calling it fact, it's a series of being unable to disprove things that makes it fact. Gravity has predictions but it also has things we don't know, like why it allows the earth to have an atmosphere. Your Bible can't even go from genesis to exodus without contradicting itself, and the 4 different gospels are almost a joke. The maths of the Bible is flawed beyond belief, it doesn't logic at all, it's essentially brain-dead. Few examples: Mathematically, Moses arc couldn't hold every animal (2 of every animal for leniency, despite it being 7 of every clean animal and bird and 2 of every unclean animal) if they were all in pokeballs. Then, the water goes 20 ft above the highest mountain. But what's the highest mountain in the world if Mt Everest hasn't been discovered? Still Mt Everest. Enjoy the ice and the dead frozen everything up there. Then, when the ice eventually melts and the water disperses (Because somehow it rained underwater...) there would be no plant life alive (because the flood lasted a year according to your Bible) for the animals to eat. And that's just one instance, there are plenty more.
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Maybe Virgo copied the Christian fish. Or maybe this, it's just a freakin fish! It's literally two lines anybody could draw that anytime any place. Maybe he didn't fit all two of every kind of animal we have nowadays. Perhaps back then, instead of being donkeys, ponies and horsies, they're were just horsies. Then over time the horsies micro evolved. Yes I just said evolved! But micro evolved, not macro evolved. And the Bible never said rained underwater, it says water burst forth from ruptures in the earth. And get this, maybe it all worked out cause it's a *whisper* miracle. Hahaha, have fun with that one. I can already tell the storm that's coming my way.
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1) horses to horse, pony and do not is macro evolution. The difference between micro and macro is time. 2) there is no evidence such a flooding ever occurred, how did all that water fit in the earth anyways, that's not how volume works. 3) miracles don't happen in logic so I cannot accept it as a miracle. I can accept it as a fantasy tale, but not as a factual event that happened.
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If you can't accept miracles or more specifically in this case, the earth yielding to the wishes of an all-powerful God, then I'm just not gonna be able to convince you.
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Prove beyond doubt this god being exists then we can talk about miracles.
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Editado por JesusDied4uBro: 8/26/2016 5:09:43 PMYou already know he's real, you hate Him for all that you see wrong in your life. But let's both be honest, you and I both know I'm never gonna prove God to you no matter what I say.
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If I knew he was real I wouldn't ask for proof. God is a being that cannot exist within reality. Reality is his project and he works on it from outside of reality, thus, he's not real.
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Then how did he send his Son, also God, into reality?
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Because he's all powerful?
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Good answer! And therefore, since Jesus (God) is in reality, God is real.
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Nope, God operates outside of reality XD and no, Jesus is no more than a good story. The Bible contains "historical events" that cannot have happened and multiple contradictions within itself hat shows the author wasn't even aware of what he was writing. What's kinda special is there has always been many many religions on the planet, and there's only 1 god pertinent to them all, so, what differs your God from theirs? They have the same 'proof' of their God that you have for yours, but they're wrong. Me? I just simply believe in one less god than you.
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Editado por JesusDied4uBro: 8/27/2016 12:45:11 PMAlright alright, so you say that example doesn't count for some reason now that I made an example that disproved your argument. So I'll do it again. You say Jesus is just a good story, but not God and God operates out of reality, but then again GOD (not Jesus) literally [i]walked[/i] in the Garden of Eden with Adam. God's therefore in reality. That's totally wrong since the [b]great[/b] majority of religions have been polytheistic. Baal worship, the Greek gods, the Roman Gods, etc. are all polytheistic. And what makes mine different, is that my religion's hero isn't dead. Islam's Muhammad is dead. Buddhism's Buddha is dead. Christianity's Christ is not. And yeah, I know I can tell you don't believe in my God, haha. I get it. So we can stop arguing about this whenever you want.
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So, because we have no bones, and no record of him in Bethlehem, and no records of him anywhere in a Roman book. Actually, we have a lot of evidence from that time, if Jesus existed we would have ample evidence? The Buddhists and Muslims have bones, anthropologists can work with that, we can work that. That's fine. But if the Romans never documented Jesus (And they documented everything.) Then there is no bones for someone who never exists. And if God operates outside reality, and is thus not in reality...he is not real?
