So after my post from the previous IB I thought I would share my experiences again. Simply put, it was terrible. Matchmaking is at all-time low and latency is rampant because of it. Games regularly started without full or even teams (my favourite was starting a game with myself against 6 opposing players) which normally lead to one-sided games. Red bar players regularly topped the scoring, despite Bungie claiming that players with a poor connection should not gain an advantage. I also witnessed at least one red-bar player in every match. I'm including screenshot links below to some of the worst offenders during my 20 or so games in the last IB, but don't imagine for a second this is all of them.
In addition, spawning was terrible. I had instances where both I spawned in front of enemies and they spawned in front of me. Why has this suddenly started happening?
I took the liberty of recording all of games to get an idea of score spread and Win/Loss percentage. It certainly felt that any wins I gained were incredibly close (within a few hundred points) but the losses were almost always one-sided. These are my findings:
Games played: 21
Games Won: 7
Win percentage: 33%
My team's average score: 8443
Opposing team's average score: 9714
I would certainly expect the averages to be closer if matchmaking was working correctly (a average difference of more than 1000 points is ridiculous) and the fact that my win percentage is significantly below the 50% Bungie claim to aim for shows that matchmaking is not working correctly.
There is also the issue that the connection bars do not seem accurate as I have repeatedly witnessed players with a green-bar connection ignoring damage and skipping around the map due to latency.
Disclaimer: I'm not implying anyone is cheating. The vast majority of these issues seem to be caused by being matched up with people far away or genuinely having poor internet. My issue is entirely with Bungie's matchmaking and peer to peer system. In addition, you can see that I constantly have a green bar connection, so the issues are definitely not at my end.
4 man fireteam with at least 2 bad connections
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679144[/url]
Lead to this:
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679144[/url]
All but one player went positive.
Game started 5v6 with 6/11 players with a poor connection
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679153[/url]
Two red-bars on top of opposing team
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679156[/url]
Unbalanced teams but red bars on top again
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679158[/url]
Unblanaced matchmaking (in my favour for once)
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679159[/url]
Red bar on top
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679163[/url]
Red bar on top
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679165[/url]
3 red bars (2 in one fireteam)
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679167
Another one-sided game
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679168[/url]
Another all-red fireteam
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679178[/url]
Red bar on top
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679184[/url]
Every player on the opposing team went positive
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679186[/url]
Another one-sided game (not IB) where the entire opposing team went positive.
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679189
Unbalanced teams and red-bar on top (not IB)
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679190[/url]
What in the actual -blam!-! Entire opposing team lagging (not IB)
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679191[/url]
Seriously?!? (Not IB)
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679196[/url]
Another red bar on top
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679197[/url]
4 red bars in one lobby
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679198[/url]
6 poor connections in one game
[url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4679199[/url]
So, in conclusion Crucible matchmaking is broken. What I can't understand is that Bungie decided to test some new matchmaking settings in the Control playlist. The response was overwhelmingly negative so why were they implemented in the other playlists too? For a company that loves to say "we are listening to our players" you seem to be wonderful at completely ignoring them.
There are multiple thread daily about the issues in Crucible (the thread referring to the recent matchmaking changes had over 3000 responses and not a single up-vote and was "mysteriously" removed) and you are ominously silent on the matter. People are stopping playing or cancelling RoI pre-orders because of these issues. Even a statement saying "we are aware of the issues and are investigating" would be a start.
In addition, why are people with a poor connection still clearly receiving a benefit? Wasn't the "damage referee" supposed to fix this?
Please could we have a response to these issues that have been going on for months now?
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#feedback
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Daily reminder that matchmaking sucks and the damage referee doesn't work ! Red bar on top [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4691811[/url] Red bar on top [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4691812[/url] 2 bad connections on top [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4691813[/url] A gloriously one-sided match (I had to leave it was so bad) [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4691817[/url] 3 bad connections near the top of their teams [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4691820[/url] Another one-sided match. I'll let you guess which players had a bad connection [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4691821[/url] 4 man fireteam with one red-bar player. Entire team didn't take damage. [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/ExtremeSteveVD/screenshot/4691822[/url] I'm still waiting for a comment on this Bungie.
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2 RespuestasWhat people don't seem to understand is this: When bungie says they are doing something to fix matchmaking, like the Damage Referee and "tweaks" to Control... THEY ARE LYING TO BUY THEMSELVES TIME. If you can prove me wrong, please do so.
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BUMP I love Destiny and i play everyday and just because this problems i don't play crucible anymore i can't, it's just not fun at all. I wish to be back ... maybe with new DLC
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1 RespuestaEditado por Spheals: 8/25/2016 6:07:19 PM
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Editado por Pahvi: 8/25/2016 5:36:18 PMDid couple matches in a fireteam of 3 and more, those were the laggiest matches i've encountered in that ib. Rank 5 all 3 chars, doing clash solo just works. My only tiny complaint was the map rotation, seemed like destiny only had 3-4 maps :/ Sure, spawns are what they are, sometimes shit for everyone.
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1 RespuestaDont forget the hit detection, it is beyond garbage. Shotgunning people point blank, nothing. Shooting them with any primary, nothing.
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OMG that's brutal. Another reason I've stopped playing for the last.. oh idk month or so. Sure, I logged no to see if anything was new, went on Patrol... but then I just turned it off. RoI is going to be a shitshow if this isn't fixed.
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Go into a match with at least 1 red bar in your fireteam and it's over the lagvantage is given to the entire team
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Spawns in clash have always been bad because teams flip the spawns all the time, while in control you can control the spawns. As for lag I didn't notice much of it this time around but I did get a internet upgrade before it started.