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Editado por MLG_DABI:
8/24/2016 8:11:13 PM
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SBMM TAKEEEE IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SKILLED BASED MATCHMAKING IS RUINING PVP. @Cozmo @Deej @Bungie
SBMM is making every game hard and annoying and most importantly not fun.
Bungie has said the good players k/d went down but the bad players went up and their is
more bad players then good so -blam!- the rest.
let me explain why this is just an illusion of a k/d booster for bad players.
they never actually get better lol they play average players everyday never
being exposed to something greater then them self witch is sad. they think they are getting better but actually only getting worse because they are getting used to playing bad players consistently.
Good players play only other good players on a constant day to day basis so it becomes very very unenjoyable and annoying.
understand SBMM is bad for the game and is only an illusion of kd getting better for the bad player and worse for the good. the bad players don't complain because they think they are actually getting better but your not sadly and good players are leaving because bungie doesn't care about 1% of people having fun its a scrub game it always has been it always will.
you will not get better playing with people on the same skill level .
I remember having so much fun every day waiting to play pvp but now its just like I open the menu n say -blam!- witch lobby might have less try hards so I can just relax but I could never do that thanks Bungie.
(taking off SBMM doesn't mean I only want to play bad players! it means I want no lag, connection based match making... sometimes I will play good players and sometimes I will play average players its random)
If I want competitive play I can sweat and so can everyone else now that private matches are coming.
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While this is a good message I can't take you seriously with your name.
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SBMM doesn't not take player location,ping,or network stability into account...SBMM creates lag and I'm sorry but alot of these "sweaty" matches you guys talk about it because of just that....LAG!!!!! The game already uses shitty p2p where some random host,regardless of connection,basically determines the flow of the match
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12 Respuestas1. SBMM is great. I love it. 2. They changed the settings on MM last week and people are still here whining about SBMM. Just shows they don't know a whole lot about what's going on. lol
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19 RespuestasWhy do you have MLG as part of your gamertag and complain about good competition? Poser.
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4 RespuestasIn Y1 "I play PvP because it challenging not like mindless AI" Late Y1 "I don't want to play with ppl with less than 1.2 K/D because they are easy" Y2 "SBMM is killing the game. Ppl I face are hard and I want to chill in PvP" This community do not know what it wants.
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7 RespuestasI'm sorry, but there isn't much thought in your post. In sports, you play at your skill level. People get better by playing against others at their skill level. As they get better, the SBMM adjusts and brings them up the curve. It actually does what CBMM doesn't do - it allows bad players to become better. CBMM doesn't do what people want it to do. Look at the division. The DZ is the PvP zone; unlike Destiny it isn't balanced, so skill is less of a factor - but gear is a major factor. So, there is still a group of Haves (those with gear equivalent of those with skill) and Have Nots (those without gear equivalent of those without skill). The Have-Nots get destroyed in the DZ, they can't progress, and it isn't fun. The Have-Nots don't sit there and say, oh I don't have the gear - so I just have to learn to play better. What they do is say, I'm not having fun - I'm going to do something else. Which dwindles the player base. If the low skill level players drop out, the player base dwindles - eventually returning to the SBMM that we have now, with a greatly reduced player population. That isn't good for ANYBODY. Connections are bad. Nobody is denying that. Connections need to be improved. Nobody is denying that. Bad connections do make the game less fun. Nobody is denying that. The solution isn't to put in a work around that causes damage. The solution is to address the connections.
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4 RespuestasLook the reason they changed it was way too many players were jumping out of lopsided matches. K/d boost really, mine barely went up (0.89 to 1.0 average). Benefits are: 1. I rarely have a game where players leave anymore, have lopsided matches or see red bars. 2. I don't see a six player clan wearing ToO emblems anymore. Some of us casuals have families and work a lot of hours leaving little time to practice to improve. We are not going to get any better regardless of who we play against. Based on the lack of red bars I would say that most of us casuals can afford really good internet. By meaning relaxing game, you mean you want to pup stomp some scrubs as you prefer to call us.
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3 RespuestasEditado por KaptainKrakenZz: 8/26/2016 3:56:22 AMYou do release it's connection based now right? I mean I either go against 900 elos or 2000 elos, and I have 1450 elo. So it's mostly connection based.
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1 RespuestaThe simple solution is ranked/social. The current situation for anyone who's good is dire, losing games purely on connection is what made me stop playing
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4 RespuestasI disagree with everything here. We had CBMM and it was bad and worse than this. I improve and learn a lot when a play against hughly skilled players and try to copy their techniques. AFAIK that is the only way you learn from anyone better than yourself... i.e. you either play with them or against them. My random team got tea bagged by ToO champion fireteam yesterday and just me and another random managed to get some decent kills against them. I however learned at least 2 new skills which I plan to use in my next PvP. Maybe I'll be good or get tea bagged again but learning is fun and only time will tell how I evolve. I love this SBMM!
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Great game, fix your -blam!-ing netcode !
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I think sbmm should be removed because I'm pared with sweaties every time and also laggy players. I can't stand it
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1 RespuestaGit gud?
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This is a video that MTashed did on skill based match making. It's pretty good and you should check it out. [url=https://youtu.be/132Y5oX4zsw]link[/url]
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I enjoy just about every match that I play, it's exciting, rewarding, and all around fun. Until someone's internet poops out. Then it's a matter of finishing the game and re-launching. A bit inconvenient but it's nice to know I won't be out of my skill range when I drop in.
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Id be ok if we had dedicated servers like overwatch. Fair competitive matchs with no lag
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As long as skill based match making is faulty, they should just focus on connection based. I'd rather die to a player more skilled than me than a player who is more skilled than me AND lagging.
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1 RespuestaYou know how awesome this game would be if bungie completely removed K.D? Not just that but if bungie would actually come up with decent patches every 2 weeks this game would be amazing. However they confirmed they don't care and the majority of bungie is already working on destiny 2 which may or may not suck like this one
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1 RespuestaYes take it all off Mmmmmm *unzipping sound*
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You spelled [u]which[/u] wrong, which is sad
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Let's be honest bro the pvp thing has been bad since bungie day one cause of all the people who think they knew something but don't. I'm not a good player an I'm not a bad player I'm just a player I have my good days annhave my bad days. Monday before reset I was with friends in banner an I went 30 kills to I think 10 deaths or something like that that's rare for me my average pvp is 10 kill to 11 or so deaths I die more then I kill an I'm not afraid to admit it. But all these other people 25 or so kills to 6 deaths that's outrageous its ridiculous cause no one should be that good at all well only those who play 24/7 an have no life. Don't bring my user ID into the conversation I'm just giveing an example. But still I'm waiting for private play so I can play friends an have fun an not deal with every match being full of crutch weapons snipers an people who only when cause there lagging everywhere. I'm done with the bullshit cause let me put it this way I don't believe in carrying people I had to be carried twice threw trials because of the bullshit an I shouldn't have to. I despise haveing to be carried but I'll admit that I had to an admit I'm not extremely good at trials like most try to.
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7 RespuestasYou won't get better playing better people either lmao, you just get your shit shoved in by snipers and shotguns while you camp in terror hopefully getting a kill. This game has never been more uneven in games where the good players CONSISTENTLY get put in games with many more worse players and they drop 6k+ points every control game. Don't act like you just gain skill by osmosis if you're shit and playing a good player, it doesn't work like that. There already is no strategy to this game at all. You look for the red dots on the radar, move towards it hopefully in enough cover and then hope you out aim them, with every OP ability and gun in between making strategy impossible. Ya their matchmaking sucks ass but your reasoning is invalid
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They can keep sbmm if they get dedicated PvP servers instead of this p2p connection bs if they don't want to do that then they need to get rid of the sbmm and go by connection based matchmaking.
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I bet someone with a .6 kd has a ton of fun facing someone with a 2.0 every game. Non skill based matchmade games are not fun for the players that are not as skilled. It was different win a PvE guy could jump in and melt players because they had better gear than the PvP only guy but now with the close to balance Bungie has achieved you have to have skill based mm for fairness.
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I'm sick of the teleporting red bars
