This was from a post i saw ages ago... cant remember who posted it... Keep in mind the K/D stats may be out because its from an old post but it explains how a positive K/D is weighted more then a Negative one which in turn pushes the AVERAGE k/d to just above 1.0. Anyway make of it what you will, most people cant wrap their head around it. [quote]Now before you all go full retard on me and say “but when someone gets a kill that means someone gets a death which has to mean the average K/D is 1.0” just have a read and try wrap your head around this. First off to get the average K/D you don’t just look at the global ills to deaths as this will of course be around 1.0 maybe less with suicides we need to be looking at the K/D of each player and finding the average. Take this for example (a very small example but try stay with me here) Player A finishes with a K/D of 2.0, while Player B has a K/D of 0.5. Now let's take the average: (2.0 + 0.5) / 2 = 1.25 As you can see, a high K/D tends to skew the average more than a low K/D. Why? Because the K/D score is based around 1.0, and is expressed as a fraction. The upper bound of a fraction is infinity, while the lower bound is 0. Naturally the numerator (kills) is going to be more influential then the denominator (deaths). [u]So lets just recap here.. a positive K/D weighs more on the average K/D then a negative K/D does… but how? [/u] [b]Because the K/D score is based around 1.0, and is expressed as a fraction. The upper bound of a fraction is infinity, while the lower bound is 0. Naturally the numerator (kills) is going to be more influential then the denominator (deaths).[/b] Now lets take a look at these stats of subclasses from Guardian.gg You can get this number from Guardian.gg by looking at the average KDR of each subclass and the subclass distribution percentages. So these are the numbers: Sunbreaker: 1.06 kdr, 18.63% Stormcaller: 1.04 kdr, 8.76% Gunslinger: 1.09 kdr, 13.98% Defender: 1.01 kdr, 2.14% Striker: 1.03 kdr, 8.6% Bladedancer: 1.11 kdr, 11.37% Sunsinger: 1.01 kdr, 12.98% Voidwalker: 1.05 kdr, 8.27% Nightstalker: 1.01 kdr, 15.26% So what you do is simply weight each kdr by subclass distribution percentage and then add it up. So you get: (1.06 x .1863) + (1.04 x .0876) + (1.09 x .1398) + (1.01 x .0214) + (1.03 x .086) + (1.11 x .1137) + (1.01 x .1298) + (1.05 x .0827) + (1.01 x .1526) = 1.049423 Take note that ALL the average Subclass K/Ds are above 1.0 and this is because positive K/Ds outweigh negative ones. If 2 players go against each other and player A gets 10 kills 0 deaths and player B gets 0 kills 10 deaths that means Player A has a 10 K/D while player B has a 0 K/D.. for this average to be 1.0 which a lot of you think it should be because there was 10 kills 10 deaths player B would need a - 10 K/D which isn’t possible because the lowest K/D is 0 while the highest k/D is infinity and this is why the average K/D is weighted just above 1.0 maybe around 1.05 - 1.15 and not 1.0 or lower.[/quote]

KD is a difficult thing. You could get over half of your teams kills and carry everyone, but you might rush ahead too much and end with a 1.5 KD. On the other hand you may camp in the back of the map and get a 10.0 KD, but you didn't help as much as the guy who went 1.5 but got 30 kills instead of 10. All in all, I couldn't give a crap about KD unless I am actively trying to improve it. I haven't cared about stats and KD in any game for many years except for Heroes of the Storm, which I kind of had to care about as a top 50 player.

I guess these game don't mean anything. Nor my 100,000+ kills. Some players farm for k/d resetting characters etc, but the players who are actually good can maintain a high k/d without a team, and those players are the most dangerous. Also, sweats. Don't forget about that. All in all, it's a k/d decent baseline, but it doesn't show all. But that's just me. ~[i]TheGreatNike[/i]

I don't even worry about it lol. I let my 5 yr old play. He falls off/out of the map almost as much as me!

Destiny MM does not use ELO or KD to determine your foes so...the real question is...what to they use?

As usualy the same crowd is in here saying K/D doesnt mean anything even though kills help you win and deaths help you lose

K/D has always been sort of a generic stat really. It's like the cover of a book. You get an idea, yet it may or may not be totally accurate. There are too many factors in Crucible for strict K/D to hold true weight. Hell we've all had random things happen that kill us...sometimes a ridiculous amount of times per match. Running into a super straight from rez, getting grenaded from across the map, heavy ammo kills from across the map, laggers, falling off the edge of the map, teammates running in front of you as you launch a rocket or grenade. Way too many factors to say every kill is you "losing". However, a person with a low K/D may not be awful, but people with higher K/Ds are generally better players (minus farmers) in respects to their ability to read and know maps as well as general playstyle.

KD hasn't meant anything ever. Especially in games where you can pad, or boost, it. I've never judged someone's skill based on stats. I've based it on actual performance. And even that is skewed because everyone can have really good days and equally shitty days(even if it happens less often).

Of course it does. The server used to store my data has mass, so it must have weight.