Just four manned normal with 4 others. I'm a vet but only one had done it once and two were deaf and newbs. Honestly it was a great experience and me being able to talk to one out of 4 and a couple quick messages had us finish in a couple hours. Makes me wish for matchmaking but that's another topic. Can we please get a minor upgrade to this? Make 3 of coins work, have current engrams drop, or if you feel ambitious at least upgrade the armor. I understand the argument with weapons and I'm willing to let the armor slide, but can we get something besides no time to explain to draw people to these raids.