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Editado por LordSaladzTV:
7/28/2016 1:37:46 AM
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Interesting thought on Quantum Immortality
For the sake of sanity, this is purely for fun and to pique a curiosity or interest in you all, much as it has done for me. [b][u]PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT ANY OF THESE IDEAS AT HOME! THEY ARE [I]THEORIES[/I] WHICH MEANS THEY AREN"T PROVEN FACTS[/u][/b].
I'm sure many of you are familiar with the theory of quantum suicide or quantum immortality. Let me explain this as simple as possible.
For the sake of controversial topics going on in America, let's say you have a gun and a license to carry that gun whether it's open-carry or concealed. Going about you daily routine, you witness an armed robbery while stopping at corner store to grab a pack of smokes or maybe a candy bar. The robber turns to you and aims directly at you. You are faced with a decision: draw your weapon in attempt to defend yourself, or put your fate in the hands of the armed villain. This brings us to our first idea in understanding the beginning of this theory. The moment you act, the dimension you are in splits in every single possible outcome of the situation. For example:
1 - You draw you gun and fire hitting the man in the shoulder causing him to drop his gun and the police arrive to apprehend him. You are a hero!
2 - You choose not to draw your gun and the man simply leaves after a successful plunder of the corner store without shooting anyone.
3 - You draw your gun, but the man acts more quickly and shoots you before you can even get your finger on the trigger.
4 - You don't draw your gun but he kills you anyways.
The list could go on and one, your gun could misfire as could his. You could both miss your shots. You could both fire and the bullets collide in midair. Etc. So essentially, every single time a decision is made by anyone at anytime, the dimension splits and time goes on accordingly in those separate dimensions. So this brings us to the next part: [b][u]Quantum Immortality[/b][/u].
Instead of a gun, let's change over to a vest of C4. You are wearing this vest of C4. The activation switch includes a device that gives you an exact 50% chance of detonating the vest (with a 100% chance of killing you) or a 50% chance of the switch simply clicking and not going off. For this experiment, you hit this switch every 3 seconds. What happens? Well, according to the theory, the dimension will split. In one dimension, you have very upset friends and family that have one less person in their lives. In the other, you are completely alive and well. This happens again and again every 3 seconds when the switch is activated. Because the death is instantaneous and you cannot actually witness the explosion, you "follow" the dimension that the c4 vest doesn't activate. This continues to happen each time. Essentially, you could activate the switch every 3 seconds 100 times and live. 1,000 times even! So on and so forth. You have reached Quantum Immortality!
So here is where the interesting thought begins.... if you were brave enough to accomplish this feat and create a whole lot of very sad and upset split dimensions... what could you possibly achieve? If you could somehow demonstrate this in front of crowds of people or in front of a panel of scientific experts, what could happen? Let's say you have a bunch of vests pre made. You have a crowd of individuals who are selected at random to choose which vest you are to wear as well as a number 1-10 being the amount of times the detonation switch is to be activated. This cancels out the variables of you possibly "cheating" by having the vests set to not go off for a set amount of times. Then, as further proof, you remove the vest after successfully surviving and set it up on a dummy and hitting the switch as many times necessary to blow up the dummy. This would show that the vest in fact would explode. (don't dig to deep into other variables, someone will still come up with points worth mentioning). Obviously, in many dimensions you would make a fool of yourself and end up on CNN as "Crazy man dies catastrophically attempting to become immortal". But if you were to "follow" the dimension where you never actually died, you would be living in a dimension where you successfully faked death an [I]x[/I] amount of times. You would receive world fame. Maybe even a Nobel Prize? Millions of dollars? Maybe even be worshipped? What do you think?
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1 RespuestaI want to read this later Someone bump me
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5 RespuestasEditado por Reggie_Wok: 7/29/2016 1:29:34 AMA friend and I came up with a fun theory based off other theories based around simulations. Note, this is not a real scientific theory, but more of a fun exploration into the thought of prolonging life and creating new universes in a simulated reality. This post will be long and there will be no Tl dr. So imagine we have gotten to the point where humanity has completely explored our solar system and has advanced to a point that past humans would consider us almost god like. We could potentially become so advanced that we could build a supercomputer around the sun or another star with emmense power. Also known a Matrioshka Brain, it would be a mega structure that could encapsulate a star and use its energy to power a supercomputer in which people could upload their consciousness. Now going off this, we could theoretically manipulate our consciousness' perception of time once inside the supercomputer. We could make it so that every second that goes by in real life feels like a year inside the simulation. Almost like a dream in a sense, in where we can live out a what feels like a full day or two in just hours. And Inside this simulation, we would each start out with our very own universe to shape and cultivate in our image. We would be like gods but everything would have to follow the basic programming of the simulation which be like our laws of physics today. We would be able to create life in the simulation and live out billions of years until the simulation ends. So if billions of people are hooked up to multiple supercomputers, it possible one or more them could create humans within a simulation that mirror us. If the simulations laws of physics were a mirror of ours, which is something we have assume the programming of the simulation would do, they would theoretically be able to develop and go on to become advanced enough to create their own supercomputers built around stars. They could then go into their own simulations and would have effectively created a simulation inside a simulation. In their simulation, they could do the same thing as the one previous and slow their perception of time to the point where they have billions of years to live in their simulation before the original simulation ends with the original universe and subsequently causes all following simulations to end as a result. Now since this could keep going on and on with simulations being created inside simulations, there could be an infinite amount of simulations where in time is slowed. This would basically mean time is infinite as this slowed perception of time would stack with each new simulation created. Think of it like this; if we assume the original universe is going to end, we could create the original simulation as a means to prolong our perception of existence. As the original simulation edges closer to end of its existence because the original universe is going to end, a new simulation is created within the original simulation and makes it so every second within this original simulation, which is already slowing time, is a year. This could then happen again and again to the point where a second in the original universe is equal to an infinite amount of time in an infinite amount of simulated universes. Going off this, these infinite simulations could be representative of infinite universes where in some only vary slightly but others vary drastically. Another cool thing is that we could also say the Big Bang, the expansion of matter and energy, is just the boot up and creation of the simulation. Now of course I'm just fitting a well known theory that has actual evidence supporting it in here kind of loosely, but it's a very intriguing thought non the less. This also begs the question of whether or not we are in a simulation. Note: Sorry for any grammatical or spelling mistakes. This is just for fun and kind of a brief explanation of what my friend and I discussed. It has no evidence backing it and I'm not claiming it be a real theory, more of just a fun thought that we expanded upon. There are a lot of holes here and a lot of assumptions being made, so this again is more for fun than anything else. For example, a computer running of a star's energy would still have limits and I have no idea if it could support one simulated universe, let alone billions or infinite. Others have talked about simulations before, and real theories have been made involving them, which I highly recommend looking in to if this interests you.
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2 RespuestasSo different universe with different outcomes?
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Uh, you'll bring cellar for saying theory. I urge you yo replace the word with hypothesis.
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This was a great post! I really enjoyed reading through it all! 😊👍🏼
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hory shet
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4 RespuestasThat's basic multiverse theory with a side of idk what. Everything we do could be done infinitely different ways and there are infinite universes in which every possibility and every combination of possibilities have occurred. Now, pressing the detonator will cause new universes to exist, but if it detonates, you still die. The speed at which it happens is irrelevant. Yes there will be universes in which you can press it forever and it will never go off, but where it detonates after the first press or the 100th is irrelevant to the other universes. You won't just follow one in which you don't die, it isn't one you in infinite universes, there's infinite yous doing infinite things.
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1 RespuestaI'm too stoned for this..
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3 RespuestasEditado por LahDsai: 7/30/2016 12:31:40 AMThere are times when driving when I suddenly think, "An alternate me let off the gas two seconds too early and was totally obliterated by that car back there." Thank god I live in this reality.
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Editado por Brickinthewall87: 7/30/2016 2:24:20 PMAll jokes aside, I have two general issues with the while quantum immortality concept. The first is that it isn't really immortality at all. Nobody lives forever because eventually there are enough things that go wrong with a person physically speaking that all the variables (points at which realities diverge based on decisions/actions/etc) will eventually collapse, meaning that there does come a point at which there are no more realities in which you exist, and no choice or deus ex probability twist can alter that. The second issue is that while it is true (pending the accuracy of this version of a quantum multiverse) that as long as there is a *chance of surviving a situation, then at least some version of you will have survived in some reality. But is is also true that you will have still died in many realities. Meaning fewer possible versions of you out there. You would still be dying (technically many times in different realities), and would only live on in another reality, leaving you with only a chance with unknown odds of your current consciousness continuing to live on
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2 RespuestasDoes anyone else feel retarded while reading this?
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2 RespuestasAfter 1000 clicks of the vest, your odds that it didn't go off even once are 1 in 2^1000. That is a statistical impossibility. Try again.
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tl;dr Imagine constantly trying to kill yourself but never doing it. Now you're immortal because quantum physics!
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I like what the author of No Country For Old Men says, I do not own the book I listened to it on audio, but he basically says that there must be someone out there - a real man, who is an absolute angel of death. It is only simply statistics. There is somebody out there who is untouchable.
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As an expert on being Immortal I have to say this isn't it, nor would it be in any verse. This result, is the same as NOT detonating the vest a billion and one times. Therefore the verse where you flip the switch and live, is the same as the verse where you don't flip the switch and live as the impact to those around you is nil, thus no change between the two verses. Aside from some burned up dummies to prove the vest worked, nothing else would have been impacted. No change to the number of fish in the sea nor grains of sand on a beach, nor lives lost in the world. Sure, some may have witnessed this act, but it'd simply be entertainment and nothing more. Like watching a magic trick or circus act. Immortality, would be the verse(s) where the vest DETONATES and you survive. Verse plural, because Immortality isn't a synonym for "Indestructible". Like being hit with a rocket in the crucible, and standing back up moments later and shooting someone in the teeth. That's Immortality and it'd be the same regardless of the verse in the OP because each time the switch was pressed was a branch in a tree that you were ALREADY Immortal. Thus, this is simply one very lucky individual...or rather the verse in which said individual is ALWAYS lucky, when it comes to Russian roulette with suicide vests.
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Is this... A shitpost?
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1 RespuestaBut is schroedingers cat in the box alive or not!?
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But what if you draw your gun, and they draw a better more detailed gun?
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3 RespuestasHeh. The things you commenters wholeheartedly believe simply because some smart people said it. Stay in your lane, people.
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Immortality is a terrible idea.
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3 RespuestasIf infinite universes exist, why hasn't one of them visited us?
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First of all no, just plain no. Putting the word quantum in front of something doesn't make it magical. With this experiment you're simply playing the odds, just because you might have happened to get lucky and not die doesn't mean you're immortal. Quantum immortality isn't a thing, so please don't strap on a vest of c4 and try to become immortal.
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Hmm. Sounds like multiverse theory. For every decision you make, another universe (or several other universes, depending on the amount of options you had) is created in which you choose the other option.
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1 RespuestaDid not read
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Splitting in dimensions you mentioned are similar exercise to introduction of dimensions few more than already defined as existing 3 or 4 (if one includes space-time). One might make a theory of living infinitely in a dimension..but then again other aspects would turn into paradox (like time loops time flat-time). Sucks that we dont have a single demonstrated practical use achieved yet for the futuristic quantum theories put forth currently.
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Is there a universe where no one has ever died?
