I know this has been brought up a lot so, sorry for beating a dead horse. The nerfs have been slowly killing my play time and I went from playing every day to playing once every week or less (never ever thought I would start to play so little like I have - thanks streamers, youtubers and their lemmings and especially you Bungie for listening to them). I know how out of hand these nerfs have gotten and I have been as anti-Bungie as anyone lately but even I was like "man, Sunsingers can't be this bad, I'll reserve judgement until I play for myself". So I finally got on and played this weekend. WOW. I mean holy fuq W-O-W dude you guys just took a massive, frothy, swamp bog, day after beer drinking dump all over Sunsingers. Oh my fuq. Let me state that this is PvE related. So you PvP only players I guess can leave because I know this is below you. There is probably a Trials stream you need to get to you so you can regurgitate what needs to be nerfed next. (Sorry to be an ass but let's face it, Trials is what got Sunsingers shat on because it was "annoying" or "frustrating" lmfao. The most sound reason to nerf anything ever! Was it OP? Nah. But it sure was [b]ANNOYING[/b]!!!! Better nerf it asap!) Anyway, I'm a Day 1 player and Warlock main. This was my first time really playing my Sunsinger since the last patch of nerfs. I used my favorite load out which has been the same since Y1 on my Sunsinger: Solar grenades, Sunbreaker gauntlets, Viking Funeral and Touch of Flame. I also had on a double max of intellect and discipline both over 300. With this load out pre recent nerf I could go into, say, Undying Mind and during the final fight when you would have nothing but majors spawn in a circle at times I could pop Sunsinger and melt everything and produce 7 orbs. Now, pfft now I kill [b]maybe[/b] 2 gold bars and on average was producing a whopping 1....ONE....orb. Hell, the grenades have a hard time killing any normal enemies now. What did Solar grenades do to anyone? Is it the burn itself in general that makes the grenades so weak now or were the grenades targeted? Either way, doesn't matter, this wouldn't be an issue had you just left Sunsingers alone. This game is basically becoming a meme representing nerfs and crying babies. I mean sure, I guess Sunsinger is still useful because you get an extra life. I guess Flame Shield is still decent. Sure, you can use Fusion nades but not everyone likes those (myself included). You guys rendered a whole class very close to being useless and damn sure made an Exotic (Sunbreakers) quite useless. Good job guys! Can't wait to pre order my nerfed Iron Gally! PS - I play all 3 characters and was not in favor of Hunters getting shat on either. I fear for my Titan and it's brothers and sisters because they are clearly next in line to get destroyed. Boy I can't wait to throw my money at the screen. But that's more or less just an anecdotal story, right guys?! ;) EDIT: I do use Fireborn but with my max discipline and intellect set up I can chuck 9 grenades from start to finish. This always use to net me 7 orbs. Now it does not.